Black Pastors Group President Urges This Response to Gay Marriage Ruling

Black Pastors Group President Urges This Response to Gay Marriage Ruling

June 29th, 2015
Controversy

The leader of an organization of African-American pastors said in an interview with Newsmax that Christians must oppose the Supreme Court’s gay marriage ruling through civil disobedience because “you do something to get arrested to call attention to the injustice.”

Reverend Bill Owens, president of the Coalition of African-American Pastors (CAAP) explained:

“I was in the civil rights movement, so I know how to do it. When we sat at the counters at restaurants, we knew we were going to be arrested. You do things to get arrested, to call attention to it.

“So many people were silent. The church people were absolutely silent on this issue. A few leaders spoke out, but the masses of the church people were silent.”

When asked why people were unwilling to speak against President Barack Obama when he came out for gay marriage in 2012, Owens responded:

“The whites didn’t want to come out against Obama since he endorsed it so strongly and they didn’t want to be called bigots – and the blacks didn’t want to say they were betraying a black man. I came out very powerfully against Mr. Obama when he stood for same-sex marriage.”

We agree that Christians need to stand up for Judeo-Christian values and oppose this latest miscarriage of justice. However, will enough Christians be willing to take a public (and politically unpopular) stance – and risk ridicule and/or arrest? If so, how many years of civil disobedience will it take to reverse the tide of immorality in America over the past few decades?

Share your thoughts on this topic in the comments section below.

  • ColBuck

    The ruling of the five deranged justices by no means represent our Country. It merely reflects the opinion of five very biased people sitting in those seats. It is a shame that they were confirmed and now they must be removed as they are unfit to fulfill the duties and responsibilities as Justices of the Supreme Court. I urge our representatives in Congress to initiate a bill/amendment that will impeach/remove/replace the justices for acting contrary to the best interest of our Country.

    • ERB

      They should be removed because they are ruling by opinion, and not law.

      • Jackie

        Absolutely. The Supreme Court Justices are on the Bench to give opinions not make law.

        • Woody

          There is some good news too:

          Here:

          Pro-Family champion, Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID) recently introduced the “First Amendment Defense Act” (H.R. 2802) to strengthen Religious Liberty.

          Labrador’s bill prohibits the federal government from denying tax exemptions or other government benefits to individuals and institutions that defend Real Marriage.

          And I will need the support of every Public Advocate supporter to pass this bill.

          Obama’s Solicitor General, Donald Verrilli Jr., admitted Christian schools, churches and adoption agencies could lose their tax-exempt status if they refuse to support homosexual “marriage” as a result of the Supreme Court overturning Real Marriage.

          But Rep. Labrador’s “First Amendment Defense Act” would prevent this. And it’s gaining support at a critical time.

          Can I count on you to sign your “First Amendment Defense Act” right away?

          Public Advocate is leading the fight to move this bill through Congress by mobilizing and recruiting pro-Family Americans like you.

          • Jackie

            I would most certainly sign for First Amendment Defense Act. Thank you for including me. We are becoming so immoral that it is a wonder God hears our prayers.

          • Kyle

            Me too. I would sign in a heartbeat.

          • canda

            So would I.

          • Woody,
            As an Idahoan I will certainly sign on to this legislation.

      • shavager

        ERB–Ginsburg and Kagan BOTH participated in marrying gay couples and both advocate for same-sex marriage, by moral, ethical standards for the Justices, BOTH should’ve been forced to RECUSE THEMSELVES, hence gay marriage LOST 4-3. This is the ultimate in DECEIT and LIES–Kagan had said during her nomination proceedings that Man/Woman constitutes the marriage union. SHE LIED, just as she did about the Second Amendment being a RIGHT declared and protected by the Constitution–since then she’s VOTED AGAINST Second Amendment rights in EVERY CASE!

        • suz

          Kagan should be thrown off the supreme court . She should have never been allowed to vote on ObamaCare as she helped to write it.

          • shavager

            I’m with ya, as a member of Obama administration she was actively pushing to get it adopted. Neither her or Sotomayor deserved a vote to confirm, but GOP RINO’s like John McCain and Lindsey Graham will tell YOU that “Obama deserves a nominee”—NO, AMERICA DESERVES AN HONEST JUSTICE, NOT ONE WHO LIED AND DECEIVED DURING THEIR HEARINGS!!

          • suz

            That is why I could never be on a jury because until these politicians are put behind bars for their crimes no one should be behind bars.

          • shavager

            Suz, WE the people can’t abdicate our duty as a citizenry to do our duty and convict the guilty or release the innocent. The fastest way this country can get turned around short of an overwhelming VOTE (and that’s debatable since the DemocRAT party will use LIES, ILLEGALS, DEAD PEOPLE, they’ll do ANYTHING to win), is for the STATES to call a Convention of STATES, NOT a Constitutional Convention. It would be a very limited act by the states to force government, by Constitutional Amendment, to recognize the RIGHT of the people and the States to reign in DC government starting with TWO simple Amendments–Balanced Budget Amendment to STOP the corrupt overspending of our Federal Tax Revenues and running up DEBT and TERM LIMITS–these are two issues Congress will NEVER vote for because it LIMITS THEIR POWER. You’d see a forced exodus of career politicians OWNED by the left, corporations, special interests, lobbyists and Wall Street.

          • h m rowland

            LMFAO !! So Shavagar you say blah blah and blah blah blah because blah blah is blah blahing you. Well I belive your blah blah is learned blah blah rather than the truth. Your blah blah is not your blah blah opinion which you have blah blahed on your own but a blah blah recitation of blah blah from O’Liar and Hannjobity. It is sad when your blah blah rant is not even your own. if you want to cut the blah blah spending then cut the blah blah military spending , that money would be better put to use in efforts to create peace rather than fight the wars created for us by our true government the billion dollar budgeted, unbridled, unchecked, sweeping power of the CIA.

          • canda

            Are you trying to say something mr. blah, blah, blah?

          • Drawer22

            @canda – If I understand h m rowland correctly, he said, “Blah,” or words to that effect.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • canda

            Thanks!

          • Drawer22

            @canda – Alway happy to help! (It’s a shame when others have the blahs, but if any deserve them, it’s intellectually shortchanged proglibiotrolls like h m rowland, but it’s they who wanted change!)

            Sic semper tyrannis.

          • shavager

            You’re probably an illiterate ILLEGAL, your inability to debate or provide any concise point is laughable. In the juvenile worship mentality, DENIAL is not a river in Egypt. It’s a prevalent lack of thought analysis and in depth examination of available data necessary to profile the supercilious background of a vainglorious fabulist, exposing some people’s nihilist and contumacious tendencies.

          • h m rowland

            He Left Her For a Younger Man. See Her Revenge Makeover.

          • Franie

            Nicely phrased! Hahaha

          • Franie

            Geez Rowland. Will you grow up? Your blathering is showing your IQ to the world. Not a pretty picture.

          • h m rowland

            My response reflects the statement of the commenter …go chastise that childish ignorance .

          • suz

            No it’s because I’m a minority in my state and if you don’t go with the majority your considered a hostile juror

          • Greyguy

            This is why you should be on a jury, you can do a lot, jurors have a LOT MORE RIGHTS THEN THE SYSTEM LET THEM KNOW ABOUT. During Voir Dire I started asking questions to better understand the questions the prosecutor and defense attorney were asking and got so many laughs that other potential jurors started asking questions as well—the attorneys lost control of the process and had a side bar. The defendant decided to cop a plea and not deal with us.

          • Greyguy

            Both are incompetent jurists and everyone knew it going in, either their lack of experience or past records should have disqualified them. But our system of compromise and deals got them into the system; Sotomayor as a side deal to get a vote out of then Senator Moynahan [she was reversed over 60% of the time on individual rulings] and Kagan who has barely ever practiced law unless you consider political hackery as a qualification. If they were men they would never have been considered.

          • The political left is comprised of sociopaths and psychopaths, and neither is attracted to or practices integrity and honesty. their agenda is the most important thing in their pitiful lives.

          • sox83cubs84

            I agree, but Ginsburg and Kagan (as well as Sotomayor and Stevens) are all rubber stamps for Ovomit. If honor says you should recuse yourself from a case, the 4 libs will avoid doing so, because many (if not most) liberals have no honor…the top priority for the left is to push their agenda, force all of us to abide by it and make us like it.

        • ERB

          I am very well aware of these facts, and is exactly the point I made, they are ruling by opinion, and not by the law.

        • larry

          Hello Shavager: Didn’t Kagan, before she was confirmed, say that there was no constitutional reason to allow gay marriage? Correct me if I’m wrong on this.

          • shavager

            Larry–YES!!! Listen up people, in her Senate confirmation hearing in 2009, Elena Kagan was asked by a member of the Senate confirmation panel: “Given your rhetoric about the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy–you called it “a profound wrong–a moral injustice of the first order”–let me ask this basic question–do you believe that there is a federal constitutional right to same-sex marriage?” KAGAN’s ANSWER: “THERE IS NO FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE.” She was then asked: “Have you ever expressed your opinion whether the Federal Constitution should be read to confer a right to same-sex marriage? If so, please provide the details.” KAGAN’s ANSWER: “I DO NOT RECALL EVER EXPRESSING AN OPINION ON THIS QUESTION.” She provided a written letter to Sen. Arlen Specter which further illuminates: “Constitutional rights are a product of constitutional text as interpreted by courts and understood by the nation’s citizenry and its elected representatives. By this measure, which is the best measure I know for determining whether a constitutional right exists, there is NO federal constitutional right to same sex marriage.” IN HER OWN WORDS, Elena KAGAN SAYS THERE IS NO FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT—and then she voted to say there IS.

          • Lili J

            I recall reading an article somewhere that suggested Kagan had been extremely “well groomed” in her responses….

          • Keven

            Seem all these judges must have been in the chamber’s trying each other!

          • h m rowland

            Ah shavager, we all enjoy self masturbation but most don’t do it in public like you. You are such a sad mistreated victim it makes tears well up in my eyes. Tell me again how those awful married gays affect your personal life. 5-4 seems to affect presidential elections and also matters of adhering to the Comstitution.

          • Drawer22

            @h m rowland – In other words, “Blah.”

            De Oppresso Liber

          • shavager

            Well, we all know you’re taking care Obam’s right now like all you myrmidons do. It’s NOT a matter of IF, the U.S. Constitution and our government framework was based on NATURAL LAWS, the LAWS OF NATURE and Nature’s GOD–the Founding Fathers declared that in the Birth Certificate of the United States–Declaration of Independence. IF and until THE PEOPLE of the U.S. CHANGE the Constitution to reflect it, gay marriage IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL, NO MATTER WHAT THE SUPREME COURT SAYS. There has NOT been one state that has voted to legalize it, nor any application in the Constitution that allows it. Kagan and Sotomayor should BOTH be impeached and removed from the SCOTUS bench for LYING during nomination confirmation, it’s simple as that–they’ve LIED continuously to hide intentions to vote OPINION over legality and Constitutionality. Ginsburg should be impeached for participating WITH PREJUDICE and not impartiality.

          • h m rowland

            14th amendment. Didn’t you used to do drag shows under the name Sha Sha Sava’g? I am pretty sure that I met you after your show one night in the Village. I know you did a great show that night and did a Bette Midler number called “Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy” . You were wearing a wack uniform from the Army and your wig was about 3 ft tall with that little hat sitting on top. As I recall you were quit a hit!!. I guess your too old for the stage now, no offense but that was 1974 so I imagine you just scuff around that house in a duster and slippers now a days. You hang in there buddy its no disgrace to grow old we all go through it everytime around. get out there and shake that booty!!

          • shavager

            FEDERAL LAW, 28 U.S. CODE, Subsection 455: DISQUALIFICATION OF JUSTICE, JUDGE, OR MAGISTRATE JUDGE: (A) ANY JUSTICE, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States SHALL DISQUALIFY (NOT might, should, could or maybe–SHALL) himself in ANY proceeding in which HIS or HER impartiality might reasonably be questioned; (B) HE or HER SHALL (once again, not maybe or might but SHALL) DISQUALIFY himself in the following circumstances: (1) Where he or she has a PERSONAL BIAS or PREJUDICE concerning a party….(3) Where he or she has served in GOVERNMENTAL EMPLOYMENT and in such capacity participated as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding or EXPRESSED AN OPINION CONCERNING THE MERITS OF THE PARTICULAR CASE IN CONTROVERSY.—Elena Kagan served as Solicitor General in Obama administration as well as ADVOCATING and PERFORMING gay marriages, Ruth Bader Ginsburg ADVOCATED AND PERFORMED numerous gay marriages. BY FEDERAL LAW, THEY SHOULD’VE BEEN FORCED TO RECUSE, they were NOT IMPARTIAL AS THE FED CODE REQUIRED!!

          • h m rowland

            So what? That isn’t how it came down. Why would anyone be opposed to people getting married ? I figure if someone is that stupid let ’em wallow in their mistake until the divorce. From what I gathered from the first and last line of your post you are upset with the Supreme court of the land and I can understand, I sure remember how outraged I was when judges elected that dumbass Yosimite Sam Bush as president, WOW what a disaster that was!! Simply the worst president of all time. Little G and Warren Harding should get married. This is just a very sweet payback. Relax Sha Sha change is constant and unrelenting and is the only sure thing in life, you’ll be ok.

          • shavager

            W. Bush was NOT the worst president ever, you’ve been listening to TOO MANY Obama teleprompter speeches and sucking up too much Obama pablum. Under W. Bush, we saw the SECOND best economic period since Ronald Reagan’s and Reagan’s was THE BEST in modern history. We got 56 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS of economic growth after Bush CUT TAXES in ’01 and ’03 to spur growth after Clinton’s RECESSION–yeah, I know-YOU never heard about Clinton’s recession but we were in recession when Bush came into office and citizens and seniors were losing MILLIONS in 401k and pension plans. Bush WENT TO CONGRESS 17 TIMES to warn them about Fannie/Freddie mortgage industry being in trouble over bundled mortgages sold by banks and financial industry that Clinton FORCED to sell no down-payment loans to low income and ILLEGALS who could NOT afford or qualify in any financial circumstance–it was WELFARE FOR HOMES, paid for like everything else–WORKING Americans. THAT is what caused the collapse–Community Re-investment Act, passed by DEMOCRAT Congress under Jimmy Carter and put on steroids by Bill Clinton through Federal agencies like HUD. Marriage is based on LAWS OF NATURE, man/woman to conceive and promote carrying on families and lineages. NATURE does not accept ‘queer’ animals, WE should not tolerate gay marriage-it is the RIGHT of the people to make laws in this country and NO STATE has ever passed a gay marriage platform, NO Congressional bill has ever allowed it.

          • stephen shirley

            Marriage is not based on laws of nature—nobody sat down and studied nature and then said whatever the research shows we’ll do it that way like it or not.

            I don’t know about nature ‘accepting’ queer animals or not , but they sure exist.

            as you point out it is the right of people to make laws but same sex marriage was legal in 27 states even before the supreme Court decision; but it is not the right of the people to make any law they wish because we have never been a straight.democracy but a constitutional one, meaning there are limits in which a simple majority does not rule. If you think it does or should try bringing back slavery by a state vote. peoples rights are not and should not be subject to the whim or enmity of others just because you are in a majority. ‘In alienable rights’ as written in the Declaration means you cannot take them away, only violate them, as in my money is still mine by rights even if you steal it.

            The idea is that people have inherent rights and it is up to the party wishing to restrict rights to show cause why their interest should prevail over the freedom of the ones claiming rights whether old ones or new ones, and the party against the new view of marriage failed to convince a majority of the court there was any legitimate damage done to others that would justify injuring or restricting the claimants. I see you disagree but convince a court of that.

            Since this thread is about marriage I will not try to refute in detail your statements about economics, but they are way off base as to the facts.

          • shavager

            You’re babbling in your Obama gay pablum. The laws of nature specifically PROHIBIT procreation through homosexual acts and THAT is what marriage was intended for BY OUR CREATOR and NATURAL ABILITY! You need to BONE UP on our Constitution and our REPUBLICAN GOVT–Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. CONSTITUTION specifically states: “The United States SHALL GUARANTEE to EVERY State in this Union a REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;”—-Our LAWS are proposed BY CONGRESS consisting of a House and Senate–Article ONE, Section ONE: “ALL LEGISLATIVE POWERS herein granted SHALL BE VESTED IN A CONGRESS of the United States, which SHALL CONSIST of a Senate and House of Representatives.”—-ALL LAWS, not those instituted by courts! There has been NO LAW passed by Congress that allows gay marriage and those “27 states” you quote as passing gay marriage–NO STATE HAS PASSED GAY MARRIAGE THROUGH THEIR STATE LEGISLATURES–it has been done by LEFT-WING Court decisions in those states. Our country is a REPUBLIC with a REPRESENTATIVE government, NOT a democracy of “majority rule”. Courts DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO MAKE LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY!!

          • stephen shirley

            Against the laws of nature has only one meaning–something that does not and cannot happen— not something you don’t want to happen

            No legislation is ever needed to enforce the laws of nature. If you step off a cliff you will fall-law of nature. If you walk into a wall you will not go through–law of nature. If you compress a gas the temperature will go up–law of nature. Get it?

            If procreation is the only legitimate case for marriage then we have no business allowing the marriage of anyone who cannot procreate, such as elderly, or infertile couples

            YOU need to bone up on the constitution. YOUR opinion of what the Creator wants has no bearing on the law and has not since day one of the constitution. Some previous colonial statutes gave it a place but the constitution ELIMINATED that.

            I acknowledge representative government rather than majority rule. Have you noticed that you christians ARE the majority? 71% of Americans identify as christians, BUT THEY ALL DON’T AGREE WITH YOU AND YOU DON’T GET TO MAKE THEM BEND TO YOUR IDEA OF WHAT THE CREATOR WANTS

            The Episcopalians, United church of Christ, Quakers, Unitarians, and others instituted same sex marriage even before the courts ruling.

            Back to the Republican (representative ) government. Even with that provision it is not absolute that the representatives can vote anything they like anymore than the individuals they represent can vote anything they like————because we are not a pure democracy but a constitutional one. In our system there are those who would like to restrict peoples rights to just what is listed in the first 8 articles of the Bill of rights, (Scalia ) and who completely ignore the 9th which if you are not familiar with it specifically says not to take the listed rights as complete. Sometimes people do not have rights recognized until they claim them, but understand, the meaning of rights is that they are yours forever and always whether anyone violates them or not. That is what the Declaration means when it calls them “inalienable”.

            The constitution DOES NOT give you any rights; those you have already. The constitution limits government not you.. The old view before the constitution was that sovereignty descended from God to the King ( divine right of kings) and the king could issue grants of privilege, warrants ,etc as he would but the power was his. When we overthrew the King we changed the idea to one where sovereignty originates with the people who may delegate as they will to form a government. Under this view it is impossible for rights to flow from the government to the people, rights belong to the people to begin with.

            As the constitution was written the principle may have been all men are created equal, with liberty and justice for all, but that was not the way it worked out in practice. Gradually we have added those without property, blacks, women, foreigners, and now gays. There is nothing unconstitutional about expanding rights. It takes nothing away from anyone else, except the “right” to discriminate. What you do in your church is still your business.

            It almost sounds as if you are saying the representatives can stand to block what the majority want,( which seems odd) and that nothing is legal until the representatives stamp it. If in this view the court cannot interpret, what is it for?

          • shavager

            MARRIAGE was constituted by GOD through man for the specific purpose of PRO-CREATION and multiplying across the Earth in his image, PERIOD. That’s been accepted human existence since the beginning of man and only corrupted in the last 20 years by radicals who want family and religion destroyed in this world. GOVERNMENT is their “GOD” and anything government “gives” to citizens as the usurper of those Godly rights, government can take away. The “LAW” of nature is homosexual couples can’t NATURALLY reproduce, nor can animals. THAT IS THE LAW OF NATURE, of God the Creator. I remind you the TEN COMMANDMENTS are the framework for the Laws of this country–they are posted above the Justices of the Supreme Court within the Chambers of the Court. Our Judeo-Christian nation was FOUNDED on those Biblical principles and specifically declared so by those Founding Fathers who created the Constitution. They did NOT want a Federal STATE religion as the Church of England was, there is NO “separation of church and state anywhere in the Declaration or Constitution–but IN FACT, the Constitution specifically says WE the people have a RIGHT to “FREEDOM OF RELIGION”, not “from” religion.

          • stephen shirley

            You must understand the nature of proof. When you make a statement and I give reasons against it you cannot just repeat the statement without addressing the reasons I gave .

            There are 2 separate issues here:
            1 ) What is God’s law
            2 ) Should God’s law be our law

            I can see you believe you have the answer to both those questions, but many sincere Christians disagree, and the Founding Fathers put language in the constitution that stops any one religious view from being imposed on anothers conscience.

            That something is of God has never, ever been an accepted reason in American law. That is a fact of history. If murder is illegal under both God’s law and man’s law, it is because man finds a reason that murder is not a good idea, with or without God. No one can go into court and offer as defense that God told him to do something; that is not and never has been an acceptable defense in law.

            If procreation is the reason for marriage as you say, then those who cannot procreate, like the old, or the infertile should not be allowed to marry, or even required to divorce.Do not just ignore this to repeat your points—-you must answer, or stop saying it.

            If you think that your position has been ‘accepted human existence’ since the beginning of man, then you do not know enough history to have an opinion, and there is not enough room here to go into the matter, but until you do the research you should stop saying what your evidence does not show.

            Homosexual couples indeed cannot reproduce. Neither can the elderly or the infertile, yet they can still marry, because the law never has taken procreation into account and you can’t just haul it in now.

            The 10 commandments are not the framework no matter where they are carved. The code of Hammurabi and the Magna Carta are there too, but have no more legal standing than the 10—–which is none. Is anybody punishing making idols? Taking the sabbath on the wrong day, or not taking it at all? Where can you be jailed for taking the lord’s name in vain? What is the legal punishment for coveting? The 10 have no power in law.

            While many if not most of the Founders were indeed Christian, they DID NOT decide to found a judeo-christian nation as you claim. The recent history of their ancestors coming from europe was of continuous wars of religion between different sects as to which one should be made law, and the early history of the colonies somewhat continued that. They finally decided that the only way to peace was that NO religion should be made law so that each person should be free in their own conscience as to what relation to have to God, including no relation.

            Your freedom to have your religion is based on a freedom from any religion being imposed on you. What would your freedom OF religion be worth if you had not the freedom FROM what other religions wanted to force you to profess?

            No one these days will tell you exactly what you must believe about the nature of the substance of the Trinity, but men have died for that. No one today will assert that government should have a hand in appointing Bishops, but whole wars have been fought over it. You may preach all you like against witches and spirits, but the law will not let you burn them, because the law is not Religious. PERIOD.

            I give you that the words ‘separation of church and state’ do no appear in the constitution, but I have never heard anyone claim they did. What DOES appear is the IDEA of separation, AND IT IS THIS SEPARATION THAT PROTECTS YOUR RELIGIOUS RIGHTS. Separation is NOT something AGAINST your religious rights, it is the very thing that protects them. The price for that protection is that just as you cannot be forced out of your beliefs, neither can you force another into yours——-not by law anyway.

          • h m rowland

            Actually Bush was never President. He was not elected and Dick Cheney who is a part of the evil world cabal along with the Bush Crime Family, little G isn’t smart enough to run a blender. You don’t mention the fact that he had two (known) people murdered during his tenure which was the worst 8 yrs in all of our history. He backed the plan to bring down the trade center and kill all those citizens. And he made us pay for all of his dribble cups. It was little Georgie who in a pact with Tony Blair agreed that they should both open the borders wider to the Muslim world and to encourage that movement. Yes the evil Prescott Bush sure raised his boys to be goal oriented with malice. I don’t know how you can support any of them after Poppy’s actions in ’63, if it weren’t for that coup we could be in great shape at this time living in a world of peace rather than fascists.

          • shavager

            Oh, please–take off that tin foil hat you’re wearing! Bush was ELECTED president by the VOTERS of Florida–throughout the ballot fight in Florida–which was fought in front of 3 Democrat Judges: N. Sanders Saul, Nikki Clark and Terry Lewis–ALL three Democrat judges RULED AGAINST GORE and FOR FLORIDA ELECTION LAWS!! The gist of Gore’s battle over the ballots were negated in all three courtrooms–N Sanders Saul’s court case PROVED that ANY democrat voter who believed his/her ballot was spoiled by “chads” that were either still attached to the ballot HAD A RIGHT to at least TWO more ballot opportunities and any failure to do so was the VOTER’S fault, not the state’s or precinct. Gore tried to deny absentee ballots from several counties as well as deny military ballots that did not arrive by the deadline date for the election and LOST in both Clark’s courtroom and Lewis’s verdict too. Gore blew the opportunity for a statewide recount by pushing for recounts in only 4 counties he thought he could “mine” for more votes–the U.S. Supreme Court–as many media heads predicted–denied that recount based on “equal protection” laws–which require ALL votes in the state to receive EQUAL status. By pushing his three lawsuits, Gore ran out of time for a full recount and the final decision by the Supreme Court denied a full recount because Gore had run the time limit up against the STATE Constitution MANDATED limit for a full recount to have already been finished and a winner declared. Al Gore simply tried to win by DEMANDING different election rules be used AFTER an election had been held and all three Democrat Judges as well as the Supreme Court ruled–FLORIDA ELECTION LAWS MUST BE UPHELD AS WRITTEN BEFORE THE ELECTION and any change in the ‘interpretation’ of the laws concerning “chads” clinging to backs of ballots should’ve been made BEFORE the election and not after to change an outcome. I KNOW, I live in North Florida and followed the court cases closely. P.S.–the Lawyers who represented George W. Bush–WERE registered Democrats who based their cases ON FLORIDA ELECTION LAWS, NOT party affiliations. THAT is why W. Bush won. Every major media source that recounted those contested votes all declared Bush WON based on the election LAWS in place in Florida.

          • h m rowland

            And the funny part is you believe all that blah blah. The evil part is It was the Bush Family (everytime I type or say that I hear the theme from the Godfather in my head) and Susan Harris who is now set for life under the fat fascist family umbrella. The vote was 5-4 not that that matters what it was was bullshit. No republican ticket has won a national election since 1928 without a Nixon(Prescott Bush’s boy toy) or a Bush on the ticket. I bet if you check they have the title to the country in the glove box, right under the one for all the aquifers in South America (they’re just waiting for us to run out of drinking water….weeeeelll doggies!! they will be richer than the Clampetts . You probably condone their murders as well. Go away , I vote no on anyone who stands up for this evil dynasty built in the NWO, these people are a disgrace to human kind more evil than an other evil. from building Auschwitz to 9/11 to Jeb for pres. These people make the Clinton’s look like Hansel and Grete, and make you look like a fool.l

          • shavager

            Your turgid attitude and nescient comments become pestiferous and reductive. You insult the source like a typical myrmidon instead of contemplating the veracity of my comments and opinon. Your tendentious nature discourages debate. The smiling young lady from Niger, rode on the back of a tiger, and after the ride, she wound up inside, with her smile on the face of the tiger. You know NOT what you have until it has devoured you within its control.

          • h m rowland

            That’s true my turgid attitude and nescient comments are pestiferous and definitely reductive, I am so thrilled that someone here on this blog gets it!! However the veracity of your comments and opinions are extremely odiferous. and it is not my tendentious nature that discourages debate but the afore mentioned condition of those opinions. I don’t think even a tiger would devour them.

          • h m rowland

            Where did you get this feel good stuff about the Bush Crime Syndicate off some pretty phamplet printed by a Disinformation Agent at the CIA?

          • shavager

            You’re worried about W. Bush who cut taxes in ’01 and ’03 and gave U.S. the SECOND best economic period of growth in modern times behind only Reagan’s? 56 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS of growth while Federal revenues to the Treasury WENT UP by 44% INCREASE to the HIGHEST LEVELS IN U.S. HISTORY. While your buddy Obama Bin LYIN’ is selling us out to IRAN and the muslim imams? He’s responsible for the LONGEST period of poor economic performance since the Great Depression, the HIGHEST foodstamp levels in history, the HIGHEST poverty level among U.S. children in history, the HIGHEST number of working age Americans UNEMPLOYED and not working, the HIGHEST welfare levels in U.S. history…Yeah–and he’s PROMISED to DEFEND IRAN if they are attacked–that’s in his nuclear deal–SO, who’s side is he on?? He’s created ONE full-time job for every FOUR part-time jobs–we’ve become a part-time economy under his policies and ILLEGALS and aliens are getting 80% of those jobs according to the Center for Immigration Studies. And, by the way, Qualcomm–producer of smartphone chips is LAYING OFF 4,500 WORKERS while asking for MORE H-1B VISA PERMITS FOR MORE ALIEN WORKERS. MICROSOFT is doing the SAME thing–laying off workers–BOTH companies are among the top 15 companies USING H-1B VISA WORKERS. THAT is the America Obama gave you, NOT W. Bush.

          • h m rowland

            ….all while murdering JFK JR and Sen. Paul Wellstone, I guess you think their planes just dropped out of the sky, and if you throw in 9/11 …wow, that’s a lot of population control to his credit as well and then let’s not forget the little g and Blair and their pact to “open more fully the borders of our(their) countries to Muslims” which you folks bitch about on an hourly basis….yes he is a great guy just like Poppy and Prescott. Evil men.

          • Woody

            Great research. How do we implement? Technically?

          • shavager

            Let you reps know, starting with Boehner and McConnell as well as your own representatives. Wouldn’t hurt to bombard John Roberts with letters quoting the law and demanding him to RE-HEAR the case with Kagan and Ginsburg sitting on sidelines in the ONLY way they can be impartial.

        • YOLADANE

          They are ALL LIARS shavager. They are EVIL to the core. They will say and do ANYTHING to further the COMMUNIST AGENDA of destroying the United States.

          • shavager

            You got it, there is NO Democrat party, it has morphed into the National Socialist DemocRAT party. OWNED as a subsidiary of George Soros and his MoveOn.org radical socialist organizations. And RiNO’s in the GOP are acting like Gestapo for the muslim Nazi in the White House, their loyalty is NOT to Americans and the country–it’s to whoever is padding their pockets with PAYOFFS and BRIBES–lobbyists, corporations, Wall Street, etc..

          • Lili J

            Maybe demon-rat???

          • Drawer22

            @Lili J – I recognize that color of brown as being Demoncrap.

            De Oppresso Liber

          • I see very little use to ANY political party. I think parties should be eliminated, NOW.

          • Woody

            And why I like Trump!

          • Because they are sociopaths and psychopaths. They KNOW right from wrong, but can’t grasp why wrong is wrong and right is right. They seem to think wrong is right and right is wrong. They are mentally skewed.
            Sociopath: a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
            Psychopath: a person with a psychopathic
            personality, which manifests as amoral and antisocial behavior, lack of
            ability to love or establish meaningful personal relationships, extreme
            egocentricity, failure to learn from experience, etc.

            To the best of my knowledge neither of these conditions can be cured, and the ones needing curing don’t believe there is a problem.

        • Drake Travis

          fantastic point shavanger! They lied, they lie still, they plan to keep lying. Socrates said that when what is said is not what is meant, then the people and society itself then stands around in helpless confusion. ‘Ever wonder why the DNC loves this scenario?!

        • Benny A Brand

          Seems like she’s just a “li’esbien now and has been.

          • Keven

            These judges were back in their chamber’s trying each other!

          • Benny A Brand

            It does not seem possible we have been so neglectful as to have allowed things to come to this sorry pass. Please Pray!

          • h m rowland

            Yes I agree, when a person sets themselves above others with no thought or compassion or learned understanding we are in a “sorry pass”.

          • h m rowland

            Ya got your quotes in the wrong place Benny Bob….and so what if she is?

        • Kim GIbson

          YUP LAW states that BOTH Ginsburg & Kagan MUST BE REMOVED, aka DISQUALIFIED!

          (a) Any justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.

          https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/455

        • Daniel from TN

          Ginsberg should have recused herself. She has openly stated she is a lesbian.

        • homer1057

          BOTH of those TWO, are MORALLY and Spiritually depraved, and NOT according to what I say, but according to what The KJV Bible says: It says in Romans 1:26-32/Leviticus 18:22-30 KJV. Is this what the 1st S.C Justice would have said? John Jay, would have sided w/the Bible view…Bet on that! Read his works and sayings, then KNOW!!!

      • Woody

        Actually, gay marriage is losing in the long run by forcing Christians to suspend their beliefs; around the world where Muslims are prominent which is everywhere now, England, France, Germany, Spain, etc., homosexuals are murdered just for being who they are, and the only ones that condemn this are Christians so they are cutting their own throats…they are silencing the Christians. Not to mention the Muslims countries themselves; Christians are powerful in numbers–gays only something like 2.7% of population…

        • Lili J

          Despite vocal opposition from the U.S. Catholic Bishops, for example, 60% of Catholics now favor same-sex
          marriage. That’s a huge increase from 2003, when just 35% backed gay rights, according to survey conducted at the time by the Pew Research Center. Mainline Protestants — so-called for their prominence in 20th century American life — also saw a huge shift in the last decade. While 36% supported same-sex marriage in 2003, now 62% do.

          • CJeanne

            Many Catholics have allowed themselves to feel bad for people “in love” and who can’t marry….
            The Church has not been very good at helping Catholics understand why it is immoral and the Church will never approve same sex “marriage”. They need to talk am out it violating “natural” law, and the design of mankind being to include the “potential” for reproduction as an essential element in marriage. The earth was made with all mammals needing a man and a woman to unite and develop a family unit for the survival of the human race.
            Hence it is kind of like the terminology used in the OJ Simpson trial : If it doesn’t fit, it isn’t legit.” Sorry, that may sound corny but same sex ” marriage” cannot meet the creation defiant ion of marriage if it doesn’t include ALL the elements of the natural law.

          • homer1057

            I say this as an “EX” Catholic, OK…I KNOW of what I speak: BUT when a supposed “vicar of christ” stands up in the pulpit and says to the whole world that he can not judge Homosexuals…::I am not to Judge” then that is an OUTRIGHT Lie, and NOT a man I’d take any directions from! This is what the catholics call Gods representative? This man has NO right to stand up and say what he said when I have the “ABSOLUTE” and INFALLIABLE and INNERRANT WORDS of God that say HOMOSEXUALS are WRONG! Lev. 18:22-30/Romans 1:26-32 KJV

          • Benny A Brand

            I do not believe the polls are conducted by honorable entities. Whether you are Catholic or not, Christian or not, just ask everyone you see everyone you know, ask them, do your own poll everyone.
            Not even 10 % of the people I know support gay marriage which will bankrupt Social Security.

      • Daniel from TN

        Yes, they should be removed from the court. However, their removal should not occur until after a Republican is in the White House. Otherwise, five more Liberal judges will be nominated.

    • Woody

      Agree; especially the two who if they had any ethics should have recused themselves, and Roberts should have pressed them on this.

    • Curtis Jones Jr

      I firmly agree with you. Enough is enough. These so called Justices should be arrested for treason against the American People.

    • Joseph

      Lets not stop with the Supreme Court Clowns, lets include the President that went along with this whole thing. This country is on the verge of collapse.

    • YOLADANE

      Ya right. Do you really think our WIMP Congress is going to do ANYTHING to ANYBODY who bows down to the COMMUNIST and CHIEF ? Think again man. We are being CONTROLED by a DICTATOR and the GUTLESS Republicans will NOT go against him. They have ALREADY proven that. We are on our own my friend. WE THE PEOPLE are going to have to REBEL against this COMMUNIST take over because our GOVERNMENT is against us. NOT FOR US.

    • Lili J

      Unfortunately, these justices DO represent the majority…

      Of those interviewed in a NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, 57% say they favor gay marriage, with 45% of those saying they “strongly” favor a decision to legalize gay marriage.
      Those numbers mark a dramatic turnaround from 2001, when a Pew poll found that 57% of Americans opposed gay marriage.

      • h m rowland

        The conservative position was determined by Carl Rove as a last minute issue to try and elect Little Georgie in 2000 …..which he was….by a 5-4 vote of the Supreme Court when they made a decision for us all. That decision was not made by polling the American people or by a vote but by the bias of that court and they gave us 8 years of misery and deaths. The decision stood and was not reversed even in the face of the obvious attempt to destroy the country.

      • Byron Shoffner

        Polls are inherently flawed. I can get a majority opinion on any subject. All I need do is pick the area and population sample I want to support my views, then poll them and lie about how I received that poll percentage.

      • Benny A Brand

        Again, no the polls are not reliable. They are skewed, results bought and paid for by those who wish to make public justification for what even a child knows is wrong. Just make the majority of the people think the majority of the people do and then the majority of those people will. Right? Then even those who won’t follow the crowd are fearful to openly oppose the “majority” even people like myself who know it to be only an extremely well funded tyrannical very small percentage of the population.

    • h m rowland

      Bigots and hypocrites, I bet Rev. Bill is all about equality for blacks. I heard this JO on the Fascist WLW radio program with the ‘Great Anti American’ yesterday and he certainly has some ugly thoughts for a minister. So, here we are with a group of people who had to fight for their rights fighting against others having theirs. Personally I don’t know why anyone would want to be married except for benefits at work or tax purposes. Now let’s see, hummm, which court will overturn a Supreme Court Decision? The Judges are backed by 60%-65% of the people Col Buck (lol), What is true is it doesn’t matter who approves or disapproves it is and has been the right thing under the Constitution from which the decision is based. It is breeders who over populate the world, use up the food stamps and welfare (the average yearly income for a single gay male is $115,000), and line landfills with human feces and diapers (mmmmm, ground water tastes so good when strained through a baby diaper). Of course if you are a breeder you have always been able to tie the noose and make babies and join a couples bowling team and be with the one you love when they are sick and diying, able to maintain their belongings when they die, advocate for your partner when in a home or ill. You collect the benefits from your employers because you have a piece of paper and an opposite sex partner. I can’t imagine a more repulsive thing in which to be entangled but if two breeders love each other and want to hang out together for years and years and let the world in on that commitment then so be it. I’m just glad I don’t have to live that way. What skin does it scrape from your nose if two guys want to make the same mistake, uh commitment? Is it gonna change your home or your life? Are you afraid that if there is a gay couple on the bowling team your wife will start shopping and having lunch with the boys? Seriously, I don’t see what the big deal is, history has been made and the decision was the correct one. The government forced the hand of states to integrate schools because it was the right decision …no matter who approved or joined the Klan. Same sex marriage is not being forced on anyone no one said you have to marry the same sex or that Rev. Bill has to perform the ceremony. A baker who turns down business because the customer has freckles or has long hair or has 5 snot nosed brats trailing behind is first, not a very sound business choice and second is discrimination. I had an antique shop for many years and I didn’t particularly want breeders with a gaggle of children running around my shop but I didn’t refuse to sell to them no matter how much I wished they would take their parade down the street to the straight antique shop. Silly thinking right?………. it sure is.

    • h m rowland

      Conservatives, always on the look out for some personal rights to destroy or withhold and using God to accomplish the task. Rev. Owen forgets that those who stir this issue are the offspring of the racist bigots who used the Bible to prove that slavery and discrimination of Negros was approved from above.

    • Franie

      And I propose and also urge, our representatives in Congress to initiate a bill/amendment that will impeach/remove/replace those justices that insist on making law, instead of doing their job in interpreting the law.

  • SeritaBBetty

    ….next few days your life success days…conservativenewsroom….. < Find Here

  • Larry B.

    I can’t judge anyone, but I can do something when we are ask to go against “GOD’s” law and agree with the law of the world! Also when my congregation supported obama knowing He was pro abortion, pro gay, & pro same sex marriage my decision was either follow God or man, so I go to a different church and tithe to that church!

    • The Redman

      Listen up Larry. when someone is making a righteous judgment it is the right thing ta do. but if you are doing the same thing as the one you are judging, you shouldn’t make a judgment against em.

      • 1catfish

        Redman, It appears Larry was following GOD’s word to shun evil and you certainly have to be able to recognize it. Abortion, Homo activity and supporters of this activity will be turned over to a reprobated mind.

        • The Redman

          I never said he wasn’t following “God’ word”. nor did I say he was judging anyone. I just explained what judging meant. how’s dat for being on a hook fisher of men.

        • h m rowland

          LMFAO !! You better send a memo to “Queen James” as he is referred to by his biographers.

      • Kyle

        Larry is not judging anyone. What he did was to make a choice. and I agree with the choice he made.

        • The Redman

          I was speaking of what “judging” really means. K 1

    • Vicki Kuner Mattingly

      good for you you did the right thing lot’s of guts

  • POPPASKIP

    THE RINOS IN CONGRESS COULD HAVE STOPPED THE CONFIRMATION OF THESE BIASED

    JUDGES. SO THEY NEED TO SHARE THE BLAME.I ONCE HAD RESPECT FOR JOHN MCAIN BUT NOT ANYMORE

    • h m rowland

      Stopped the conformation of biased judges in exchange for what? Judges biased toward your thinking?

      • h m Rowland,
        In spite of popular opinion here, I am a Constitutional conservative. The First Amendment, whether we like it or not, states we all have rights as US citizens. Therefore I have supported homosexual rights including marriage. As a Christian I do not support homosexuality in the least. But under our Constitution they have rights. However, I oppose the pushback by government to force Christians to participate in anything that implies approval of homosexuals or their activities. My point is that I will do what it takes to support your rights under the Constitution. But when your rights conflict with mine, your rights end.

        • h m rowland

          Deal. I am a Christian, an ordained SBC minister and I have never felt this to be an issue. It doesn’t diminish my spirituality nor my connection to the source and never have I felt that connection break. I am highly blessed and abundant in all aspects of my life and I give thanks for it all. I am who God made me to be, I can’t and wouldn’t change that. Understanding will grow it always does my friend. I am still able to minister to the needs of others and feel empathy and compassion for their struggles in the world. the hardest struggle is not to struggle…I don’t.

          • h m Rowland,
            Small world. I live way out west and am Southern Baptist myself. No, I did not attend a seminary or Bible college. I went to a secular college and all my knowledge of history including Christian history comes from that. I used to use commentaries but long ago I discovered that the Bible itself was its own best commentary, so I gave my commentaries away. I learned Hebrew from a Jewish college professor and Greek from a college professor. I go by the original languages and what I learn from the Bible myself. I am currently in a Bible study taught by a Pentecostal. It is a purely Biblical one and not denomination oriented. I am currently without transportation so I am not getting to church regularly. If you read many of my posts, I am doing what I can to spread he Word that way presently.

          • h m rowland

            Education is always a blessing of abundance if we choose to put in we always take away. I have struggled with the Greek for a very long time I am so mentally blocked when it comes to language and with math of any kind as well. Do you have a copy of the Bible in its original Greek? The real one I believe is in the basement of the Vatican. ….hidden away so we won’t find the occult (hidden, is the translation of occult…ooooo very scary) mysteries and climb the spiritual ladder beyond the selected and anointed ones who have thought through the ages that if we learned the secrets of the masters that we would not need the church and cut their power money and influence over the masses. Do your meditation religiously like the Christ in the garden,and doors of the spirit will open for you. Meditation time and that connection that comes with so much thrill is my favorite time of the day and I sometimes don’t want to come back but I do. You hold fast to the path and do the work that is set before you. Many blessings my friend.

          • h m Rowland,
            I do not have any sort of original Greek. I did have some study guides along with a Hebrew Bible in its original language. But my one son-in-law is now preaching and I gave the Greek and Hebrew books to him. I do have a Greek interlinear New Testament presently and also have my study books on Hebrew. I also had three years of Spanish. But since I have been out of school for some 40 years I do not speak any other languages I learned very well.
            Since I also have had the history of Middle East religions including Catholicism and Islam I do believe I have it covered on abuse.
            I think we are on a similar course. Stick with it. Job did. That works for me.

          • h m rowland

            Jerry what is a ‘Greek interlinear New Testament’? Sounds like something I might be interested in.

          • h m Rowland,
            Interlinear Greek/English New Testament, third edition, Jay P. Green, Sr.

          • h m rowland

            thanks

  • WRS2252

    I stand you!

  • Laddyboy

    I did NOT vote for ‘b.obama.’ – – – – TWICE!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Doug Brewer

      You and me both

  • The Fox

    Those in black robes who think they are little gods will soon get their rewards for following their daddy satan and will roast in hell with their black robes of power, bye bye supreme nut jobs from hell your time is soon up.

    • Woody

      Not to mention 66,000,000 innocent babies they have killed.

      • The Fox

        I believe the babies are in heaven as they never had a chance to decide to be evil or good, so God won’t hold them responsible for what happened to them that was called choice when it was really murder.

        • Woody

          Yes, they are in heaven – I did not mean to imply otherwise.

          • The Fox

            Sorry I misunderstood, forgive me for that mistake. God Bless and Shalom Friend:

  • Sam Spading

    Nine learned people were appointed to judge weighty matters of law They are supposed to be unbiased in their judgments in accordance with the laws and constitution. None of the nine were wise enough to recuse themselves from passing judgment on laws given by a much higher power. Five were arrogant enough to radically change a GOD GIVEN command. This country rose to prominence because of God and it shall fall because it has turned aside. Lord help your children in their time of distress. Amen!

    • katrina

      “If MY people who are called by MY name will humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways…..then will I hear from heaven and forgive their sin and heal their land.” ll Chron 7:14
      Note: Who is He speaking to? If you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, He is speaking to you. We as His children,not some indefinite liberal, hold the power to return this nation to its original intent, IF we will heed God’s word and repent. Trust me, we all have room for that.

      • The Redman

        Right on K-trina.

      • Woody

        The states should refuse to issue any marriage license’s.

      • Benny A Brand

        YGG

    • The Redman

      U R A wise man Sam.

    • h m rowland

      Come forth with that command Sammypoo. There is no command and the disparaging words were mostly spoken (maybe spoken, or edited) by Paul/Saul who had his own issues if you have ever read anything about him. I guess you have discovered a god who is not equipped with unconditional love. Perhaps a return to 1952 would be best for you. Here you are preaching Muslim law, go figure.

  • Bob Russell

    Our nation is being ruled, not governed, by very few who see themselves as gods and anyone who opposes them must be crushed. It is time to abolish the federal oligarchy and start over with citizen legislators as our founders intended.

    http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2015/06/the-new-world-order-socialist-party-controls-america/

  • Bob Russell

    who will join in declaring Independence from the federal tyranny?

    http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2015/07/declaration-of-independence-2015/

    • The vast majority of the American People. But nobody ever listens to anyone who knows these things anymore. I’ve been telling everyone, until I am red, white and blue in the face.

  • eddie littlejohn

    We need to stand up and stop this CRAP now before this country ends up in the waste basket

    • Nathan Burgess

      IT has been full for a while Eddie. Can’t you smell the dead roses?

      • eddie littlejohn

        If we as Americans don’t start exercising our constitutional rights we are going to become like all the other third world countries with no rights or voice

        • Jerry Dodds

          I think it is too late. Our government which was dedicated by Founding Fathers, has now rejected God. Rabbi Cahn a Jew converted to Christianity has two books on what is happening. In Old Testament, God destroyed Jewish nation except a remnant several times. I know 9/11 is when many believe God took his hedge of protection from USA. Seven years. Later we had the housing and marketing crash. Judgement comes every 7 years. This October is seventh year again. Right now the IMF is meeting. Behind the scenes, economists are afraid we will loose our reserve currency status which will destroy the dollar. Estimates are dollar could fall 80 percent plus. With most on fixed income only extremely rich will be ok. No middle class, plus riots with people stealing food. I agree with an earlier comment, that they will declare martial law and no election. The cuts to Army are to allow UN to come in and take control. I doubt US Military would support him, so disarm them. The US is not mentioned in end time prophesy in the Bible. In 2007 we were only world superpower. By 2017, we will be a third world country in civil war 2.

  • 63Marine

    Everyone in Washington DC government and the SCOTUS need to be removed from office ASAP and replaced by ALL fresh who will follow the law and US Constitution to the letter and not try to change ANY of it. In addition, obutthole needs to be remove by ANY means available whether it be vertical or horizontal makes no difference.

  • scott

    theres only one cure for the disease of liberalism.total eradication of all liberal and foreign scum from american soil.REVOLUTION TIME PEOPLE.

    • Charles Wilson

      YES SIR, SCOTT HAS IT RIGHT !! WHO NEEDS DEMOCRACY WHEN VIOLENCE IS SO EASY.

      • scott

        you liberal scum have destroyed our REPUBLIC as-hole not a democracy as you liberal pukes have lied to so many americans about for years.the only solution you scumbags leave patriotic america loving people is to eradicate your filthy corrupt communist as-.you like to scream about the protection the constitution gives you for free speech yet use it to destroy the very thing that gives you your rights.get back in your boyfriends as-.

    • Nathan Burgess

      Unfortunately Scott, I think they are out for our blood…

      • Woody

        Not the first time–the Church was built on the blood of martyrs (Tertullian), and over 11,000,000 died in martyrdom by saying “No” to the Romans…and
        many oversea today

      • h m rowland

        “As a man thinketh so it shall be”….drop the fear from your thinking, there is no enemy. You are not mortal so what’s the dif?

    • The Fox

      How do you plan to carry that out? Talk is cheap and what would be your way of carrying out your idea’s, I think there is too much talk and not enough action.

      • Woody

        Sooo Trueee! All the talk, all the surveys, all the $$$ to various groups and politicians and nothing ever happens. Next, to stay in power, they will and are pushing to have the 30mm aliens vote

        • The Fox

          They are already voting as are the dead and have for years and don’t see anything changing that any time soon. You left out the ton’s of Islamist that Obozo is bringing into the country, between them and all his civilian army which is getting bigger by the day I think he will become dictator of this once great nation?

          • h m rowland

            You may be right Fox however it was Tony Blair and Little Georgie that came together and agreed to more fully open their respective borders to the Muslim people. “Bring me your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to be free.”

          • The Fox

            God never said that in His Holy Word, the words of mere men who are sinner by birth and by choice, who ever allows satanist people into the land are wrong no matter left or right, so don’t throw blame like the left always does when caught in their own trap. The God that founded this nation has been kicked out for the little god who hates His creation and wants it destroyed and has his Godless followers to carry out his plans. Of coarse he loses in the end but his pride like those who worship him won’t give in. Shalom

          • h m rowland

            God is not a ‘he’ IT is an energy We are born perfect, we are perfect and we will leave these bodies behind and take that perfection into the eithers with us. We are a perfect reflection of (it) Divine energy. Namaste..

          • The Fox

            When you get your head out of your New Age butt, let me know as you have no clue about God in anyway and just a self made god person with no brains. Your so lost the only thing you can use as a road map out is Gods Holy Word which you know nothing about.

          • h m rowland

            “Have I not said that ye are Gods?” Not God’s but Gods. Ccertainly I have a clue about God, obviously from our differing opinions the fact is that I have looked further than you and that’s ok we all grow at our own pace and of course there is the possibility that I am an older soul with more stored in the Akashic records from just having done this more times, not because I’m better, we are all equal in the balance of the universal energy. In this incarnation I have done many things and added to my stored memory. I was ordained by the Southern Baptist Convention in the 70’s and I have a minor in religion in my B.A., and my Divinity degree from a SBC seminary I have studied religion and religions since I was very young. I have had some wonderfully spiritual experiences both of this world and the invisible world. What we see with our eyes is of no concern, it is the invisible that has the most value. I commend you on growing to where you are and wish you the best in your studies. Christianity does not own the patent on spiritual sciences, nor on holiness. Look for the threads of truth that are common among world spiritual thought.

          • The Fox

            Your New Age brain has no clue of what God is saying as your god is self and blind, dumb stupid and blind to the things of God, take your New Age BS somewhere with people like you who have no real brains, your sick immoral idea’s will get you to a hot spot forever, I assure you and God assures you, have a good time and enjoy the fire.

          • h m rowland

            Heaven and hell are choices every minute everyday=it is your decision to be happy and free (“God giveth us ALL things to enjoy”) or cranky, trapped and frozen. “As a man thinketh so it shall be.” Who I am and who the self is are two different things. one is my true self the spiritual self or spirit self and the other is my personality or ego and the appearance of there being a physical self although it is not what it appears to be, obviously. Our spiritual bodies are not the same as our spiritual body.. We are always connected to the source hallelujah !! The physical (maya) is not real only the spiritual. Many blessings Fox.

          • The Fox

            Your a new age waste of time take your evil thoughts to some one who cares your as evil as your god satan and a pure waste of time you quote scripture when you think it agrees with your evil mind, so go talk to your daddy satan who loves all he taught you, dumber then a rock.

          • h m rowland

            LOL !! I haven’t said anything that does not agree with Christ’s teachings. Judge not…anything. Hang in there Fox, in some lifetime you will understand and find your way to the center. Peace.

          • The Fox

            You need to read 1 Corinthians 6:1-9 and learn about judging oh not so wise one.

          • h m rowland

            I prefer 1 Corinthians 13 even though its from Paul, I guess even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.

          • The Fox

            Well your no Paul for sure and even you can find yourself from time to time.

          • h m rowland

            I have had issues with Paul/Saul since oh around 6th grade….1966. I’m sorry I know this might set you off again but I won’t lie to you. My truth is my truth. I think Paul is a busy body, a gossiper and a woman hater as well as overly stern with others but not with himself , and a gay hater, according to the King James edit, I know you agree and I understand. I call your attention to the fact that Paul runs to the church in Corinth to blah, blah, gossip about the men laying with men in Rome where it was part of normal daily life and of that society, still is today. Why didn’t he just leave his judgment in Rome? I’m sure that he had the best of intentions but I don’t trust Paul. I have read a couple of biographies about him and it seems that as a child my suspicions were correct. I am not so sure that the condemnation by Paul wasn’t just Paul’s own unhappiness, his unwillingness to laugh and celebrate. He did put down some wonderful poetry in the aforementioned chapter of 1 Cor. I know because I have been there, that you most likely believe that every word of the Bible is direct inspiration, and life was simpler when I did too, but that didn’t last long, from birth to around age 9. I think Paul wrote random letters like we blog. A lot of people say a lot of things but it doesn’t make ’em true. In the time of antiquity any letter was sacred, I mean how many could write and how hard and long was the delivery, travel was limited for the most part. such an unusual thing would be tucked away and honored. Paul was a lover of the spirit, I believe he just had an over zealous desire for perfection, he would nit pick those around him to make himself feel better about his own weakness. I just think he was OCD and/or bi polar. I exclude him from my reading except for some thoughts that seem universal in nature in Romans and his poetry of course….when Paul exposes his feminine side he seems to be more connected to the source and happier. This is the root of his woman hating.

          • The Fox

            You are a empty skull looking for a brain and wouldn’t know God if He spoke to your empty skull.

          • h m rowland

            Whatever.

          • h m rowland

            It would be ‘an’ empty skull Tom not ‘a’.

          • Willem Toerien

            #1: “”Judge not… anything””

            How can you imply it is wrong to judge without judging the action in the first place?

            #2: “”I haven’t said anything that does not agree with Christ’s teachings.””

            Spiritualism and pantheism by definition contradict the teachings of Yahushua (Jesus). His other name is also, Jealous, for He is a Jealous God. The one whom you say is god, energy; Yahushua spoke that into existence.

            @disqus_fUg6KE5n0B:disqus

          • h m rowland

            #1: To form any opinion is judgment so we are guilty. Judge not is a judgment of judging, it is a difficult one to live without, try to make it through a day without any judgment . It is a high calling that perhaps only the wise sage spiritual masters in the Himalayans can attain . I can’t do it but its like weed, ya gotta have a fattie every no and then.
            #2: I suppose that you could twist Spiritualism into a pantheistic endeavor because they study and believe and honor all religions and their teachings. In an actual church service however it is no different than in the Baptist services as far as content goes. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and Abe Lincoln ascribed to spiritualism and Abe had séances in the White House The point is to prove the continuity of life through spirit contact as Jesus and Lazarus. You are right IT was spoken into existence and we speak things in to existence everyday, “As a man thinketh so it shall be”…..manifesting what we need and desire, happens all the time.

          • Willem Toerien

            Yah said, “the soul that sins will die.” And He hates spiritualism and pantheism. The Word makes it clear and plain, you die, you’re unconscious until the resurrection.

            So to everything that you say, Yah (my El) says you’re full of it. (something Eve should have said to the father of your doctrine).

          • h m rowland

            Ok brother its time for you to go back to Pleasantville where everything is still black and white. “The soul which allows itself to disconnect from the source will wither like fruit that falls from the branch”. Send over that memo from It, cause I didn’t get it . Living in one dimension is such a trap WT but It is your choice. Wow, the things of wonder to be found in the many dimensions beyond. Thank you much for your condemnation and judgment, you might check your connection to the source now. Meditation on the center will reconnect and align. Just a warning though, when you close your eyes you may see in color, don’t be afraid its your own inner fire. Many blessings my friend.

          • Willem Toerien

            Just FYI… hallelujah is a transliteration from Hebrew which literally means “Praise ye Yah” and you are not praising Him. For He said, “The soul that sins will surely die” and His adversary said, “You shall surely not die…”

            @disqus_fUg6KE5n0B:disqus

          • h m rowland

            FYI my friend I knew that and yes that is how I meant the use of the word, “Praise to the Divine Energy”. Your judgment of my life (energy) and my connectedness to source is just an exercise for your ego because you do not know what blessings come my way along my solitary path. You worry about your connection or broken connection (sin) and I promise we will meet in the center one day, where the light is perfect and so are we.

          • Willem Toerien

            #1: “”God is not a ‘he’ IT is an energy.””

            Worshiping the creation instead of the Creator. Pantheism…

            #2: “”We are born perfect, we are perfect””

            So wickedness (where a man rapes a little girl) is perfection?

            #3: “”We will leave these bodies behind and take that perfection into the eithers with us””

            Spiritualism in where the soul never dies, the body is just a vessel. Yah on the other hand said that if you die, you cease to exist until a resurrection.

            #4: “”We are a perfect reflection of (it) Divine energy””

            See #2.

            @disqus_fUg6KE5n0B:disqus

          • h m rowland

            #1: LMAO they are one and the same. I am an artist and what I create is me.
            #2: No that is a break, a disconnect from the source.
            #3: We do not disagree on this point. If I had to face tomorrow thinking that this meager existence was the end of my souls evolution I would just stay in bed. Jesus showed us reincarnation or resurrection as you prefer. Yes our bodies are like cars…until someone gets in and drives it is dead, still, and waiting. And by the way I am a Southern Baptist who studies all religions and much growth has come from that practice.
            #4: We are a perfect (because our source is perfect) reflection of Divine Energy, Universal Energy, God, of Divine Love.

  • Dexter L. Wilson

    How about this. When JFK was in the White House, he had hot and cold running prostitutes proven by undercover tapes under Hoover. Then we had President Clinton who tried to out JFK. Now we have 2 of Obama’s Justices who refused to recuse themselves when they had officiated at same sex weddings. Since the Democrats love to call conservatives and Republicans Racists, shall we not rename the Democrat Party the Reprobate Party? Every time they call a conservative a Racist we can call their political party reprobate.

    • Woody

      Wasn’t it Bill who said he never had sex with Hillary “Ah, dint have sex with that woman!”

  • Latch

    Everything that this President has put forth is to destroy the United States that we grew
    up in. I can only blame us, the Christians, who have sat by and allowed this to happen.
    For years God has been calling us to stand and instead we wait for someone to do it
    for us. We cannot rely on the evil that we have elected into office, we must make a
    stand. My dream is much like Martin Luther King’s dream. That all colors would
    ban together and fight against the evil we have in office. That we not allow the political
    powers to separate us to war against one another. I am really looking at Donald Trump
    because he tells the truth and he does not need money from major companies or
    political causes to run for President. So, he cannot be bought and will not owe any
    favors to anyone if he gets into office.

    • Roy Clingenpeel

      Amen. Those that rely on the integrity of another man, relies on the Satan’s proxy.

      • The Redman

        What about dem flags.

    • Vicki Kuner Mattingly

      he’s untouchable! go donald!

    • h m rowland

      The United States you speak of was destroyed in 1963 maybe you didn’t get the memo. John Kennedy was the last President who made decisions and we see what happened. The CIA has been your government since that day and many are just now noticing. Presidents are the mouth piece of this group of fascists, PR men and nothing more. all major media is the propaganda of this group of unchecked, over funded, unbridled government. They are about war at all costs because It supports our economy. That is what Christians should be worried about…all the blood shed is on our hands. Money for lives lost which supports their other agenda….population control.

  • yael

    I have been boldly speaking out on the different blogs against this travesty… Of course the gays don’t like it. Too bad. Our nation cannot sustain all of this depravity. It destroyed the mighty Roman empire. I’m not content with letting the perverts destroy us.

    • Nathan Burgess

      Unfortunately perverts do destroy the world only until there time of sin is fulfilled and their cup runneth over, then the judgment of God falls according to the bible.. I didn’t say it, God did, so let the sweeties take up their complaints with God…

    • GREYGHOSTCSA

      When “discussing” same-sex marriage with someone who supports it and you are trying to change their mind, I have found this to be a very effective tool. Tell them to close their eyes and visualize Barney Frank and Michael Moore on their “wedding night”.

  • Robert Pekarik

    Obama is anticipating civil disobedience and is emptying the jails of criminals to make room for Christians when they ignore the corrupt and immoral orders from his throne.

    • Charles Wilson

      Robert, I love your sense of humor! I suppose protestors will hand)cuff themselves to the bodies of gay people at the altar – – to prevent them for asking for God’s blessing. I guess these wisest of wise are afraid God will screw up AND answer Gay People’s blessing request and we GOTTA STOP GOD FROM LETTING THESE PEOPLE FROM BEING TOO HAPPY!!!

      Geez, what if determined Gay people refuse to let handcuffed protestors stop the ceremony and OMG!! TAKE THE PROTESTORS WITH THEM ON THEIR GAY HONEYMOONS ? ! ? ! Would this be sinful?

      • Robert Pekarik

        The only reason that gay couples will go into churches whose beliefs are for traditional marriage between a man and a woman will be to file a lawsuit against the churches. Don’t worry Charles the last reason they will go to the churches that hold to their beliefs won’t be for a blessing but a curse.

        • Nathan Burgess

          Just marry them with your fingers crossed say hail mary and see them to the door, nothing says yu have to be nice or polite, just pronounce and get them out…

          Tell them they are married in the name of Berry Obama.. He gets all the credit and let the blood of all martyrs fall on him for eternity..

          • Robert Pekarik

            Never in a church that does not condone homosexual marriage. Let them go to one of the church’s that does or one of the liberal judges or justices of the peace that do. Problem solved, now everyone is happy and no one has to be forced to do something that they don’t believe in. But as you well know the LGBT community is not about being happy but about control and force.

      • Nathan Burgess

        Charles is an idiot

    • Nathan Burgess

      Sounds right Robert…. With Muslim Guards… I see now why private companies are running the prisons… Not an accident of nature, they have set us up and all complicit to the crime..

  • Roy Clingenpeel

    The supreme court does not represent the people or the administration. They represent only the constitution of the United States. Their duty is to insure that no law or ordinance is passed that is in violation of the Constitution period. They don’t judge people or states, they are to insure that a law in is entirety, phrase article or word does not violate the contrition. Legally, they can not approve or disprove single wording, phrase or article, it must be rejected in its entirety and sent back to congress for correction and rewritten as new law and again presented for vote as new legislation. The supreme court is exerting illegal authority to legislate from the bench by changing bills without congressional authority. The president has nothing to do with the process other than approving or vetoing the rewrite.

  • gerald Hughes

    Obvious to all of the decent conservative people, we can no longer coexist with the liberal dem bloodsuckers and their perverted familiars, time for national partition and physically separating our selves from these liberal earthworms, it is the only way to prevent civil war

  • sharon

    You want to blame someone, blame those morons on the Supreme court, Obama bots. We need time limits on these clowns terms

    • bob arnold

      term limits always sound good until you see what the next president picks

      • sharon

        It couldn’t be any worse this the bunch they have now, some of them are socialists who lied about it.

  • Latch

    I totally agree with term limits!

  • Bill Wilson

    Obummer has just one plan with his back-assed endorsements and policies. To destabilize America to the point that he will be able to declare martial law. Thus enabling him to stay in office past his allowed two terms. He is nothing but a liar: NO one that professes to being a muslim would ever go against islamic doctrine and stand behind gay marriage except as a ploy…islam allows a muslim to lie to infidels without religious sanction.

  • Byron Pursifull

    The reason why these supreme court officials betrayed the institution of marriage was because they were blackmailed. No pun intended. All elected officials are being controlled this way as well as bribes

    • Nathan Burgess

      It didn’t take much Byron… Just an after decision sex party…

  • Ronney

    All you Christians should have known this was going to happen when that Muslim started appointing them. I knew it and the rest of you should have also.

    • Nathan Burgess

      Hail Romey…

    • The Redman

      All U homosexuals R soggy bottoms.

  • mudguy1

    Obama is the reincarnation of Saul Alinsky.

  • 4b4mac

    The reverend is right on! Now if he and his colleagues would just bitch slap the crap out of Sharpton!

  • Marty Koval

    If all true Christians would say:
    1) No to supporting government laws that are counter to God’s laws.
    2) No to doing business with companies that support immorality and other things that are counter to the Bible.

    The entire nation would take notice because of the financial impact to companies and the loss of control by the government to tell people what they must accept even though it is against their Biblical beliefs.

    The government needs to be reminded that We the People put them in their positions and they work for us. Not us working for them.

    It is time for all Christians to stand up and fight for our religious beliefs. The founding fathers of our country would be shocked today to see how passive Christians have become concerning their religious beliefs and the immoral direction that our country has taken in the last 50 years.

    • Nathan Burgess

      Unfortunately Marty, These judges are listening to the people. Insane as it may sound, the people have pushed for evil in every area unti no place to push except for this preverse generation…

    • Vicki Kuner Mattingly

      totally agree closed macy acct. they don.t bslieve in free speech. will not support nascar or anyone else that stops free speech the most outragous is the pope saying anyone who is affiated with firearms cannot be a christian done with him

  • used_to_be_a_liberal

    Interesting, so will “they” actually arrest preachers, especially black preachers. I dare “them” to do it, especially now. In fact please go out and arrest black Preachers. Do this, and put an end to the democrat party, as we now know it.

    • GREYGHOSTCSA

      I agree, and at the same time arrest muslim bakers for refusing to bake a same-sex themed wedding cake.

      • used_to_be_a_liberal

        Unfortunately the LGBT activists have not approached any Muslim Bakeries demanding service. They know better.

  • lloyd bloom

    This is a last-ditch effort for the difference between right and wrong. If “gay marriage” becomes legal, real marriage becomes irrelevant. If everything is everything, nothing matters at all. America without the family is for naught. Without Adam & Eve, nothing.

  • The Redman

    Yep. just what I’ve been saying all a long. white-folks are ruining the world. they pushed homosexuality on the world.

    • Nathan Burgess

      Are yu insane?

      • The Redman

        Yep. white-folks pushed homosexuality and Obama pinned it.—-on the world. huh

        • Nathan Burgess

          REdman, you are obviously a racist race baiter. Shame on you. You are surely aware of taken on a red amn’s identity and race baiting makes you a “Hater”…

          • The Redman

            Yep. I am a “hater” of white lies dat white-folks tell. nat burger

  • greg

    Gays are condemned, why should a pastor be condemned because of being forced to act on a sin.

  • Albert L Biele

    When our Supreme Court Justices decide to make law in lieu of deciphering law, it’s time to enact a legal means by which the people can remove these rouge justices from the bench. There is no way, the writers of the constitution, who were orthodox Christians, would have ever condoned same sex marriage. The 6 perverted Judges have desecrated the integrity of the highest court in the land, totally violating the sanctity of marriage, state rights, and the laws given us by the writers of the constitution, and Almighty God. They have debased the fundamental principles this country was founded on, becoming enemies of the state. Treasonous Dictators!!!

  • suz

    Time for term limits and age limits for the Supreme Court as they are have dementia

  • Danny Jordan Sr

    I TOO CALL ON CONGRESS TO ENACT A BILL TO IMPEACH,REMOVE,AND REPLACE THE JUSTICES

  • jimdarnall

    Thank you for your truthful comments. Unfortunately today’s America is, as scripture would say, is under attack by Satan to gather all he can before his time is up. Sadly many will go with him, All the things happening in America and to Christians world wide today were laid down in scripture fore telling of the coming of end times. Needless to say all is coming to fruition. Bottom line here is, Pray for hearts to be changed and souls saved and make sure you know where you will going.

  • Lawman0260

    People. We keeping having the same discussions on everything that has occurred under this administration. When are we going to take action? We the people need to fill DC slap up and bring that city to a hault and demand new leadership in this country and I mean soon. Actions speak louder that words and a lot more louder than this dialogue over this article. Our country is being taken from us by a handful of politicians who think they are above all. They are traitors and as far as I’m concerned domestic terrorist.

  • paulrod

    “….And the blacks didn’t want to say they were betraying a black man….” Didn’t they notice that that black man was betraying them? Just exactly whose lives did he make better? For the price of a few cell phones, a little money handed out, and a health bill he knew the country couldn’t pay for, they gave him their obedience, and let him take this country apart. If it’s true that blacks make up a larger percentage of the military than they do of the US population, how many of them died in Iraq and Afghanistan, so that he could give it all back, and make their lives sacrificed in vain? And what’s he going to do about it? Widen his stance, roll his left hand over a little bit more, slow down his backswing, and keep his head down, and swing through the ball………

  • GREYGHOSTCSA

    Thank you Reverend Owens for having the moral courage to speak out on this subject. Fortunately we have been handed the proverbial get out of jail card by the idiots who run San Francisco. If they can ignore Federal immigration laws and get away with it, then we can ignore the same-sex marriage law. Marriage = One Man + One Woman, Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow, Forever.

  • Bill

    They will, but if they do their congregations better stand behind them.

  • Vicki Kuner Mattingly

    how can 9 judges have that much power??? well not rule over me and my LORD!!!!!

  • Curtis Jones Jr

    I agree with Rev. Owens.

  • Corky Chavers

    Send us information on how this is to look on paper so that church membership can have an open discussion on these issues during our weekly bible studies.

  • LeAnne Bryant

    He is wrong and all those who supported him. He will have to answer to God on Judgement Day. +++

  • The Redman

    White-folks in the u.s. have long been pushing homosexuality on the Lil children and putting a ban on God in their schools. 98% of white-folks in the u.s. pushed homosexuality and Obama pinned it as false prophet.

  • Don L. Robbins

    YES, I will stand for my rights as a CHRISTIAN without worrying about what others think or say!!! GOD gives my rights, not some appointed person in some self-appointed position. Come and arrest me, I am not scared. I would not be the first of JESUS’ followers to be in prison. That is where I can reach the people I need to teach!!!!

  • Seedman

    Those pastors would be better off training their congregations to vote discerning between the priority of character over color. Had that been done skunk Obama may not have had the chance to community organize for two terms.

  • Ken says

    Government is by the US Constitution and Bill of Rights NOT your wished for theocracy.

    • cutterguy

      Why do you suppose the fathers of this country coined “In God We Trust” if they did not want God involved? What they wanted was no government run religion Now that is what we are moving toward; government telling us what to believe.

      • Ken says

        Trust in God to preserve the Constitution and Bill of Rights as it was written. Hopefully they were not referring to any of the other Gods such as Allah or Satan or Ra etc etc. Just read the Constitution and don’t add your agenda to it. It is for ALL the Citizens.

        • cutterguy

          BS For Christians there is one, true God. The founders of this great country did not fall into the lies of false gods. ” Put no other gods before me”.

          • Ken says

            I must have missed that line in the Constitution and Bill of Rights – I’ll check it out but am sure it is NOT there. Your goal and agenda for a Theocracy will never happen – the Constitution is VERY CLEAR on that. Enjoy your Religion – it is your Right – maybe tomorrow you can be a Christian.

  • Charles R Donahue

    It will be taken care of by the Sovereign of the all Creation and if I am led in any way to protest in opposition, Here am I Lord. Use a sinner such as I as You will.

  • ChuckW

    As an older male who has dealt with same-sex attraction (but is not gay), I’m calling for all who will, to practice civil disobedience of this illegitimate supreme court ruling. I wrote the justices and offered a solution for providing certain rights for two people of the same sex who want to live together without re-defining marriage. Five of them chose not to. I’m ready to go to jail, if necessary, to oppose this unconstitutional tyranny. Anyone willing to keep me company?

    • Charles Wilson

      To me life, liberty and pursuit of happiness are conservative values. Living and loving with who you please is part and parcel to L, L&P. If Exxon can marry Mobile, Bob can marry Ted and Carol with Alice and my marriage is not harmed and my Pastor performed a good service to all concerned. “Marriage” has more than one definition and if anyone’s marriage or religion is harmed by another’s marriage or religious practice, it comes of prior weakness.

  • Drake Travis

    The Constitution starts, “WE THE PEOPLE…” It does not start, we the black robes deviants. If we the people don’t want this then it is a ruling that is of not. It gets backed so erroneously in the media and pseudo-pop-culture because the “president” is in favor of homosexuality to the core. That is why. This pastor in his reply has it right. He is a true brother in the faith.

  • KhanBuryKhan

    Pastor Owens is right on all counts. The ruling is an injustice. Justices Ginsburg and Kagan had a moral obligation to recuse themselves, but for modern progressive-liberal social engineers “morality” is irrelevant. And like most adherents to modern positive law, the law means what they say it means now, and what it meant 200 years ago or what it means to most people is likewise irrelevant. Also as Pastor Owens said, we are facing a “tide of immorality” and it is aimed particularly at Christians and Judeo-Christianity. In 1971 on the subject of sexual liberation and morality, Ben Ard, Jr. (at the time, a professor at San Francisco State College) wrote, “We must, ultimately, reject this whole religious scheme as inert, sanctimonious, and obsolete.” He also quoted Lawrence Lipton who in 1965 wrote, “If we are ever to be delivered from the strait-jacket of the Judeo-Christian … moral code, it will have to begin in the schools.” It will likely be awhile before enough believers feel the lash of discrimination and begin to move to the front of the bus.

    • stephen shirley

      they had no more obligation to recuse themselves for bias than the dissenters would have to recuse themselves for what seems bias on their part. Shall all male justices recuse themselves if it is a case about women? Or maybe the females should recuse themselves for the same case All white justices to recuse themselves if a white man brings a case about reverse discrimination? Examples could be multiplied without end . The idea is ridiculous on the face of it.

  • Spark1845

    AGREED. WE THE PEOPLE, must do something. The government is GONE under that IDIOT and MUSLIM PUNK, Assbama. He should be HUNG.

  • Randall

    AMEN REVERAND OWENS!!!!!!
    God will have the last laugh on these lawless progressive perverts!!!

  • Donna Tara Lee

    Yes the 5 justice ruling in favor of Gay marriage are 100% correct. Marriage equality is a fundamental right gaurenteed by the 1st and 14th amendments. Not all religions oppose Gay marriage, nor do all protestant sects. And all citizens are to be treated equally under the law. We are a nation of las, which is the constitution. We are not a nation of religious doctine. There is seperation of church and state. That is the very simple answer to this question.

  • Donna Tara Lee

    And yes, in official capacities I am the Rev. Donna Tara Lee, ordained in 2009.

  • TAM44

    Those five pieces of steaming obama should hang their heads in shame for making such a ignorant ruling.

  • gypsy314

    I agree we must stand up and say heck no to gays rights period

  • jack

    they took your rights to decide if the people should have the right to vote on this ,congress is the law makers after the ,WE THE PEOPLE DECIDE WHAT WE WANT,78%STILL SAY MARRAGE IS A MAN AND WOMEN ONLY

  • There are so many reasons to kick these five off the court (and I see others here have listed most of them, perhaps all of the reasons), that it appalls me that there seems to be NO ONE in any part of our “GOVERNment” who is doing much of anything about it. I firmly believe that NO GOVERNment official is willing to get his hands dirty and will do NOTHING. I think just like Rev. Owens – civil disobedience is the next move, and I doubt that even THAT will turn things around. The ones pushing this are manic and pressing onward as though on steroids and have an agenda they WILL NOT ABANDON. Our GOVERNment and the media could stop this insanity in a heartbeat, but in my view they are the direct cause of the insanity. The next step may have to be a civil uprising to beat all uprisings. I so hope someone in some form of authority will finally put a foot down. Insanity does not have to rule the day!

  • sox83cubs84

    Rev. Owens, I thank you for standing by Biblical teaching, and not cave in to the angry and petulant liberal PC Police. I hope more clergy follow your example.

  • Ilene Ragland

    Let GOD judge it’s not our place to judge !

    • Benny A Brand

      Really? I will have to check now, but if I remember correctly the KJV encourages us to use Righteous Judgment. The Bible admonishes us to Merciful Judgment, tells us, we must Judge others as we wish to be Judged by our Creator.

  • Lili J

    News from The Associated Press: The Supreme Court’s ruling last month legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide has left Americans sharply divided, according to an
    Associated Press-GfK poll that suggests support for gay unions may be down slightly from earlier this year.
    The poll also found a near-even split over whether local officials with religious objections should be required to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, with
    47 percent saying that should be the case and 49 percent say they should be exempt.
    Overall, if there’s a conflict, a majority of those questioned think religious liberties should win out over gay rights, according to the poll. While 39 percent said it’s more important for the government to protect gay rights, 56 percent said protection of
    religious liberties should take precedence.
    The poll was conducted July 9 to July 13, less than three weeks after the Supreme Court ruled states cannot ban same-sex marriage. According to the poll, 42
    percent support same-sex marriage and 40 percent oppose it. The percentage saying they favor legal same-sex marriage in their state was down slightly from the 48 percent who said so in an April poll.

  • joel5454

    We have the Answer in New Jersey! We are going to expose,certain black organizations that was told to sit back ,don’t say nothing against fgas,gays,homos,trans,and let the GAY RIGHTS LOBBYIST used what happen to blacks for UNGODLY LAWS OF DELUSIONAL ACTIVITY’S AGAINST GODS LAWS! AL SHARPTON is going to PRISON,and his political corrupted co-conspirators N.A.A.C.P and the Urban league of hey boss we SICK!

  • joel5454

    BlackMen in New Jersey are not afraid,but you have to get the attention of the RACIST,BIAS,KLANSMAN LIBERAL TV media ,and get the manipulators that has made a deal with MSNBC/CNN/NAACP/NAN/NUL/, this will bring Congressional/Senatorial hearings and federal indictments of certain 501-C3 DEMOCRATIC ORGANIZATIONS AND CERTAIN CHURCHES THAT HAS INTENTIONALLY MISUSE AND VIOLATED THEIR TAX EMEPT STANDISH FOR ILLEGAL POLITICAL ACTIVITY’S FOR ILLEGAL FINANCIAL GAINS!

  • homer1057

    The Brother is right: I will NOT obey this so called ruling/law or whatever in the H E Double Hockey Sticks they call this mess! Christians are to obey those appointed over them UNTIL it goes against what Jesus Christ said and we are to disobey! I will NOT accept or acknowledge two men or two women married..IT IS Against God and it is impossible…Even animals KNOW this!

  • homer1057

    I’ll tell you what really bothers me: Of all the Supreme Court Justices, I do believe that 6 or 7 of the Nine are Roman Catholic, aren’t they? As an “EX” Thank God Catholic, I do remember that Homosexuality is wrong there too! Or maybe…”Overlooked”! Yeah, that’s it!!

  • homer1057

    I “Believe” that Thomas Jefferson said, (Help me out IF I am wrong or Misquote) ” the trees or “revolution” are watered w/the Blood of “PATRIOTS” While I am not calling for a revolution of sorts…be sure, there will come a time when “ENOUGH” is just enough, and something must come to pass to put this ship on an even Keel!

  • homer1057

    IF there one verse in the Bible that could be used (and there are MANY) to PROVE that Book (KJV) is true; the one verse I would use is: 1 Tim 6:10 KJV (ONLY-Changed in all others) “For the “LOVE” of money is the “ROOT” of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through w/many sorrows.” NOW if people can’t “SEE” this, then they can’t see! THE LOVE of MONEY..is destroying this nation and this world! BET on that!

  • shavager

    Federal LAW, 28 U.S. CODE, Subsection 455: DISQUALIFICATION OF JUSTICE, JUDGE, or MAGISTRATE JUDGE: “(A) ANY JUSTICE, judge or magistrate judge of the United States SHALL (not maybe, could or should but “SHALL”) DISQUALIFY himself in ANY proceeding in which his IMPARTIALITY might reasonably be questioned. (B) He SHALL (once again, NOT maybe or should but “SHALL”) ALSO DISQUALIFY himself in the following circumstances: (1) Where he has a PERSONAL BIAS OR PREJUDICE concerning a party…(3) Where he has SERVED IN GOVERNMENTAL EMPLOYMENT and in such capacity PARTICIPATED as counsel, adviser or material witness concerning the proceeding OR EXPRESSED AN OPINION CONCERNING THE MERITS OF THE PARTICULAR CASE IN CONTROVERSY.” —-Elena Kagan SERVED as Solicitor General in Obama administration, ADVOCATED AND PERFORMED gay marriages, Ruth Bader Ginsburg ADVOCATED and PERFORMED NUMEROUS gay marriages. BOTH, by Federal LAW, should’ve been FORCED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES–they ILLEGALLY participated on a decision they clearly were NOT IMPARTIAL OR UNBIASED!!!

  • stephen shirley

    Not sure that tactic would work as well in this case; the circumstances are so different.

    One case was about eliminating the ‘rights’ of majority whites to discriminate against minority Blacks; now it would be about supporting the ‘rights’ of majority Christians to continue to discriminate against minority gays.

    With Black civil rights the tactic worked to bring to light what was previously not well known, to embarrass even its’ supporters with the ugliness of what they were doing, and to engage the sympathy of those who could otherwise overlook what had been happening only out of sight, and so change the public consensus .

    Here it is all already in public awareness, the public consensus has already formed, and is against you, finding your actions to be the ugly ones.

    In the interests of full disclosure I have to say I am a lifelong liberal who wished the civil rights rights movement to succeed, and in this case I think you are wrong. But by all means try the experiment

  • texexpatriate

    It’s men like Owens who give the lie to what my (too) many ignorant brothers-in-law have begun to proclaim—that all Ni***rs are crap and the KKK was right about them years ago. It is also my personal experience, having soldiered with Negroes as a young man and worked for and with Negroes since then. With the morons of the Black Lives Matter group doing all they can to incite racial hatred, men like Owens are overlooked.

  • “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this age, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Eph. 6:12. The battle is won on our knees, because it is the Lord’s battle. We are to stand firm in our faith, unwavering.

  • Christina Dolman

    Why the blacks are letting that lying P.O.S. POTUS
    sell them out to terrorists. The Islamic Muslin Terrorist own 20,000,000
    (twenty million) SLAVES that are black as of today! Moreover, money the
    Obanana clan has spent on Muslins and vacations could have helped allot
    of poor and displaced Americans here in the USA!