If DHS Imposes These New Security Measures, Many People Would Stop Flying

December 7th, 2014 | by Guest
If DHS Imposes These New Security Measures, Many People Would Stop Flying
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All_our_luggageAnti-terror security forces in the United Kingdom and the United States are on guard this holiday season. Christmas and New Year’s are a busy travel period, and recent reports indicate an increase in terror threat levels. Officials are apparently considering some security measures that, if implemented, are sure to raise the ire of airline passengers.

It has been reported that at least one airline terror plot has been thwarted, and an article in the British newspaper Daily Express states:

Terrorists are plotting to blow up five European passenger jets in a Christmas “spectacular”‘ security experts say.

…Whitehall officials admit that a terror strike on the UK is now “almost inevitable” particularly with British jihadis returning from fighting alongside the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

Counterterrorism officials in Europe and in the U.S. have started talking about possible measures they can take to prevent a large-scale act of terror in the skies. A solution they’ve considered includes banning mobile devices outright in plane cabins and prohibiting carry-on luggage onto the planes.

Not only is this the busy air travel season and more threats have been detected, but terrorists now have access to more sophisticated bombs and explosive devices. Nevertheless, passengers can be expected to resist bans on cell phones and carry-on luggage. In addition to the inconvenience posed by such bans, checking luggage has become increasingly expensive. In fact, according to Bloomberg, “…the bag fee, and a cavalcade of others in the years since, has produced more than $6 billion in new annual revenue for the airline industry.”

Jeh Johnson, head of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, has not ruled out the suggested bans, but he has said such measures are not imminent:

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Frequent air travelers have taken to Twitter to express their displeasure:

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  • CaptTurbo

    I’ve got news for you. I stopped flying years ago due to the trampling of the Constitution.

    • William Burke

      About twelve for me.

    • J. Bailey

      Me too … When are people going to ‘get smart’ ? … keep their money in their pockets until the ‘Blue Shirts’ gestapo is disbanded …!!

      • Mark

        Yes why since Republicans started it………

        • J. Bailey

          Point…? or are you just a goose-stepping Follower of the ‘Divisions’ ASSIGNED …?

          • Mark

            It sounds like your talking about the TeaParty, trying to implement there agenda regardless of the will of the people<<<<<Nice picture……LOL…..

          • J. Bailey

            REPEAT: “…are you just a goose-stepping Follower of the ‘Divisions’ ASSIGNED …?” The TEA Party … just have to assign a label for comfort huh? Why don’t you try Our Constitution …? to simply abide by Our Constitution / their Oath …? “Will of the People” – sounds as if there is disagreement w/ YOUR sentiments … we don’t have a Democracy, if you didn’t know… The Majority can not crush the Rights of the minority and/or the Individual …
            btw = it is “their” not – there …

          • Mark

            Wow you much be tried, 1:22 a.m. you don’t have a life do you, Yes and the Rich are doing a good job of crushing the Rights of the People, which you are helping……..

          • J. Bailey

            2:11a – Want to give me a bedtime … Control Freak…? Awww jealous that others are richer than you…? Poor, poor Pity party … lock-step w/ your co-lemmings …

            …marching US into Fascism … Just remember what Hitler did to his Bestest Friend Rohm, once he was done USING him to get into Power … Obamabot sell-outs … At least you are being paid no one is this stupid … Enjoy as this too will end …

    • Spiritof America

      If every body quit flying, you would NOT have to put up with strangers groping you. ……Yet the borders are open . Anything making sense to you all ? Why do you allow this ? Make your stand………Don’t fly and go and stop the invasion at the borders. The country you save,………..will be your own.

      • 5live5

        I agree with you except for one thing. My wife has 27 years on her job, three more to retire and she has to travel to England and France for he job. I’d like to see the highway they use to drive THAT!

        • Steven

          Charter flights are not subject to many TSA rules.

          • 5live5

            Her company is not going to pay for a charter. you want to pay for her next flight to Gatwick?

          • Steven

            YOU implied she CAN’T avoid commercial flights. I pointed out there IS an alternative. The issue is priorities. Another option is to NOT stay with the job. Like it or not, your original comment indicates you put MONEY ahead of your stated position on the TSA.

          • WhiteFalcon

            He is being practical. They are not willing to give up his wife’s retirement.

          • Steven

            As I stated, he is putting MONEY ahead of his stated position. If he is not willing to put his money where his mouth is, he is DEMONSTRATING his actual priorities.

          • 5live5

            you probably have what? five whole years on your job? IF you even have one? Let’s see YOU throw away that many years and that much hard work. I know, bubba, it’s not important. SURE!!!

          • Steven

            16 to date, but that is irrelevant. I DON’T count on anyone other than ME to proide for my retirement. Even if I did, that would STILL be putting money ahead of whatever I decided not to do because of the retirement. I never claimed the choice was wrong. I merely insisted on the FACT that the choice IS putting money ahead of his stated position. The HYPOCRISY is what I criticized.

            For the record, it is LIBERALS that expect someone else to fund their retirement. Commons sense dictates the opposite.

          • 5live5

            You may or may not have been on the job 16 years, but you have learned nothing about personal respect.

          • Steven

            The topic is personal RESPONSIBILITY and INTEGRITY. Ignoring that ALL my comments have bee about that shows YOU have as much lack of respect as you accuse me of. Actually, your ASSUMPTION I didn’t have a job proved YOU lack respect, and wouldn’t recognize it if it were given to you an a silver platter. I have actually SHOWN you more respect than you have shown ANYONE in this discussion.

          • 5live5

            you have shown me respect? with a comment that I put money ahead of my stated position? I suppose you are also one of those that say they should just trash the social security system here and now. There are a great many people that had hard earned money taken from them without choice, myself for over 30 years and my wife is at 33 years. I suppose we should just forget that.

          • Steven

            Stating an OBJECTIVE FACT in not lack of respect. If you place a pension (money) ahead of your stated opposition to the TSA, YOU stated you place money ahead of that position. I merely put YOUR stated position in terms you refuse to accept. If I ALLOWED you to deny that, it would be a sign of DISRESPECT. If you bother denying that FACT, I will show your the disrespect you have earned by NOT responding.

          • 5live5

            don’t worry Steven, you won’t have to.

          • 5live5

            Falcon, don’t try to talk common sense to a libby, it just doesn’t compute!!! He just doesn’t understand my wife put a lot of long hours and hard work to get to where she is with this company. she has standing in her position and is well respected in her field. Oh hell yeah, just throw it all away!!! Lord, why did you make idiots like that???!

          • WhiteFalcon

            I guess it forms a point of refrence.

    • daveveselenak

      Ditto, the sheeple could have stopped it in the beginning when this draconian pseudo-safety harssment was utilized by the sheeple boycotting the use of the airlines but they haven’t the discipline or fortitude and sacrifice to save their own asses and that is why this Muslim-Marxist jihadist and his lezbo and homo commie regime are running roughshod over the constitution and our freedoms! REVOLUTION will be the SOLUTION but the sheeple have no backbone! It’s time to consider fleeing modern day Babylon because all hell is about to break lose as racial wars are being fomented by the demonic psycopath and his butt-buddy henchman Holder! I’ll bet that the loonie left is also unaware that V. Jarett and another white guy (name sips my memory) had converted to Islam! I had seen where there are about a dozen higher ups in his cabinet that are Muslims!

      • J. Bailey

        …AND DHS – Hussein’s private ARMY …
        The “Patriot” Act, NDAA & UN all need to GO …!!

      • CaptTurbo

        It’s worse then the people not having discipline or fortitude. The people have been dumbed down by intentional mis-education to not even realize that they are pissing away their rights and assisting in the destruction of the greatest country the Earth has ever seen.

  • daveveselenak

    I urge all of you to hear the TRU story of what happened at “Studio Sandy Hook”. News is being created, not reported by what I have correctly been labeling the STATE-RUN, FIFTH COLUMN MEDIA. Go to trunews.com radio and listen to the fabricated – like just about everything else on the pseudo-news – fairy tale. This is being used to confiscate your guns. This one hour interview sheds the light on what is happening here in AMERIKA! You be the judge!

    Topic: School safety consultant and former Florida State Trooper Wolfgang Halbig shares with Rick the troubling discrepancies surrounding the official storyline about the Sandy Hook school shootings. Mr. Halbig also shares with Rick a recent mysterious call warning him to back off, followed by a car running him off the road.

    Tuesday December 9, 2014 [Download]

    Read more at http://www.trunews.com/tuesday-december-9-2014-wolfgang-halbig/#GTmBOBwEH5miAmDo.99

    • William Burke

      It seems pretty evident by now that Sandy Hook Elementary was not even open in the fall of 2012. Or ever again. There was a show put on, but the only people who died were Nancy and Adam Lanza.

      • daveveselenak

        This state trooper thinks that there wasn’t a Adam Lanza as there are no finger prints! The state confiscated his mother’s home ($5000,000 value) and incinerated contents inside and razed home! Listen to the interview and all the holes in the story are addressed!

        • William Burke

          No fingerprints WHERE?

          • daveveselenak

            That is exactly it – WHERE? I believe they still use fingerprints to idenify people! Listen to the interview, don’t be so damn lazy and make your own judgement!

    • Mark

      Wow TRU news LOL, sorry but really TRU LOL….CAN YOU SAY YOUR PARANOID…..AGAIN IT’S SO FUNNY…….

      • J. Bailey

        Hey Mark … Good Luck w/ that …

      • J. Bailey

        Hope you are being PAID for your inanity …

        • daveveselenak

          Real funny Bailey, real funny but not one iota of intelligence! You deluded leftists hate the truth and that is why facts don’t mean anything to you simple minded trolls! I’ll bet not one of you took the time to listen to the interview – it doesn’t agree with your point of view!

          • J. Bailey

            Huh …? Leftist – that would be YOU, Dave … Keep giving up your Freedoms for ‘Security’ & you will end-up w/ neither… a loose Ben Franklin paraphrase = and you, in your Fear, will Deserve neither … Guessing you must enjoy being groped by strangers aka Blue Shirts – for your own Good …
            btw – Where are your ‘facts’…? Please list all the Terrorists caught by the Blue Shirts to date (of the loss of our Rights) …

          • Mark

            Yes i did, did you bother to do any real checking, how about checking the Obituary, or do you believe they lie also……Bacon, Charlotte
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          • daveveselenak

            Keep on believing the charade as that is what it was! I wouldn’t believe a word from the State-run, fifth column media! Time will tell, very shortly, as the Muslim-Marxist jihadist tightens his grip on AMERIKA, who the wise one is. The country is lost because too many think as you do or not at all!

          • Mark

            The real Charade are the ones that do not check for Facts, like you and than try insulting ones that do Check, Wow how Stupid are you………

          • daveveselenak

            I tell the truth, so be it, I know the truth hurts and time will tell Mark, believe me time will be kind to me and point you out as the gullible, rueful loser… heh, heh, heh!

          • Mark

            The truth that you believe in is nothing but a lie, since your to lazy to do any checking, all that makes you is gullible, Man are you ever DUMB………

          • daveveselenak

            Heh, heh, heh, your even stupider then I had thought! You haven’t brought one of your facts to the table, have a nice life, A-hole!

          • Mark

            Funny part is you didn’t do any thing, are you just lazy and dumb…….you bother to do any real checking, how about checking the Obituary, or do you believe they lie also……Bacon, CharlotteThey were supposed to be for the holidays, but finally on Friday, after hearing much begging, Charlotte Bacon’s mother relented and let her wear the new pink dress and boots to school. It was…
            Read Obituary Visit Guest Book Related Photos
            Barden, Daniel
            Daniel’s family says he was “fearless in the pursuit of happiness in life.” He was the youngest of three children and in a statement to the media, his family said Daniel earned his missing two…

      • daveveselenak

        That’s the usual na,na, na from you useful idiotic sycophants, you hate to deal with facts, try to destroy the messenger! Remember this A-holes when you are enslaved! You’s never deal with the facts just name call, that is how ef’n ignorant all of you are and that is why this country has gone to hell, these communists rely on ignorant A-holes like you to keep their power – we will see who laughs last A-holes!

    • Mark

      Origins: A video widely circulated after the 14 December 2012 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, which left 26 victims dead at that school purported to show many contradictions in facts surrounding the Sandy Hook shootings which established that the incident was a staged “hoax.” The information presented in that video was a mixture of misinformation, innuendo, and subjective interpretation, such as the following:

      In the immediate aftermath of the terror and tragedy of the Sandy Hook shootings, there was naturally a great deal of confusion among witnesses, police, and the news media about subjects such as the number of shooters involved, the identities of those involved, and the number of guns used. It’s hardly surprising or revelatory to note that some witnesses gave contradictory statements, that police initially followed up on the possibility of multiple shooters, or that some news outlets initially reported inaccurate information. All of this is typical in the crush for information from the news media, public, and relatives of victims that follows in the wake of disasters involving large numbers of deaths.

      In their initial sweep of the crime scene, police detained or investigated some people who were soon cleared of any involvement with the shootings:

      According to the Newtown Bee, a “reliable local law enforcement source” told them that a man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an “off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town.”

      Chris Manfredonia, whose 6-year-old daughter attends Sandy Hook, was briefly handcuffed by police after he ran around the school trying to reach his daughter (who had been locked in a room with her teacher).

      Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp#PKXMoDiqS9qQtiRE.99

      COME ON YOU GUYS ARE REALLY PARANOID DUMB ASSES……….

      • daveveselenak

        One fact is they never let the trauma teams go to the school, and officers lied about their testimony! The mentally disordered leftists will not listen to this interview because they are afraid of the truth as are almost all of the sheeple that AMERIKA has become! Look at all the draconian gun laws that are unconstitutional that city and states are implementing such as confiscating the guns of a deceased person instead of it going to a family member – I think it’s Buffalo. The stupid leftists got their heads so far up their asses all they know is sh^t and that is the TRU news! Gullible little sycophants are all that the liberals are while their freedom disappears by the day!

  • Frank J Panzer Jr

    why worry about terror attacks from abroad, why don’t they do something about the terriorist training camp in fergison, it’s terror all around us and when they are ready it’s going to happen from within our own society

    • Mark

      Why are they buying Gun and are going to use the Stand your Ground Law that Republicans are pushing….if so it suck to be you…..because you made it Legal………

      • kotoc

        Mark, trust me… when you are confronted with an armed assailant threatening you, your family, your home, your friends, your co-workers, your fellow church members, or your car, etc. You would REALLY appreciate the benefit of being able to defend yourself and others with a firearm. Tell me, do you feel comforted that you have a cell phone and can call 911 when you have immediate trouble? Sure you do. Just tell the lunatic that wants to blow your head off to hold on a minute while you call it in, and ask them to wait politely for the police to show up.

        • Mark

          So why don’t you want to pass a law on back ground checks that would help keep some lunatic from getting a gun, nothing wrong with having a gun, but let’s be smart about it……..

          • D-man

            Mark, they are called criminals for a reason. Likely because they would resort to illegal methods to obtain their guns bypassing the background checks.

          • Mark

            No shit, who talking about criminals, i’m talking about nutcases like you that are on Med’s……..

          • 5live5

            CORRECT! With Mexico just to the south of our border, if guns were outlawed COMPLETELY in the US, they would flow across the border just like the drugs that they can’t stop! The criminals would be the only citizens to have them! the law abiding citizen would be at their mercy!

          • karielle

            Living in a border state I have seen the border many times. NIGHTMARE. As far as colleges go . One of my kids is interviewing all over the country for Residency Programs. Did not go to a a Harvard or Yale. Whooping the butts of these big name Med School grads. There’s the proof. They are so wrapped up in themselves and their schools that they lose their cools in Interviews.

          • kotoc

            The only thing that gun control does as far as banning guns from the general public is that only the law-abiding citizens will not have them. Do you honestly think that the people with criminal minds will willingly relinquish their guns? They will “turn over a new leaf” and stop living a life of crime? Take away the guns from the GOOD guys, and only the BAD guys will have guns. Somehow, you seem to think it’s sensible to trust the hard-case criminals to obey the law. Really dumb to think that way. This isn’t the land of Oz, where you can throw a bucket of water on the wicked witch and she will go away and never do you harm again.

          • Mark

            So answer the Question, and stop using talking points from the right, or is that to hard for you………Back ground check is for people that under medical care of Doctor that is not covered in a back ground check at this time or is that to hard for you to understand??????

          • kotoc

            You are the one that doesn’t seem to understand, Mark… I wholeheartedly agree that background checks are a GREAT idea!!! But the Leftist Liberal mind-think (generally speaking) is that NOBODY should be allowed to own firearms. They don’t seem to realize the importance of self-protection. Never mind that there is NOT a police officer protecting every street, every place of business, every school, etc. 24/7 and will be there within seconds should trouble arise. Never mind that there are millions of Leftist Liberal voters that don’t like guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens only wanting to protect themselves because they themselves want easier access to loot and rob whenever they want. The point I’m trying to make is that if you don’t like guns, don’t buy one. You only make it easier for you to be a victim, but it’s your choice.

          • Mark

            See you did answer the Question, but your opinion about Dem’s haves nothing to do with the Question……….

          • kotoc

            Mark, WHAT question did I not answer??? I’ve told you how I feel, and if it’s the one about the background checks on gun ownership, you seem to selectively ignore that one. You just feel gratified in being abrasive.

          • Mark

            Kotoc, can you read, look at my respond, because your being ignore again………

          • kotoc

            Mark, do you proofread your “respond” before you post?? Go back and see how YOU are being “ignore” again. With your permission, let me re-write YOUR response: Kotoc, can you read? Look at my response, because you’re being ignorant again.” Tell me, what are you smoking tonight, Mark? Did you know the difference between “your” and “you’re”? Did you actually pass 4th grade English??

          • Mark

            I see again you did not check did you, their a word for that, you did check and saw how stupid you are….

          • kotoc

            I only wish that YOU could see how foolish you make yourself look… how uneducated and unobservant. This isn’t an issue about background checks, from square one of the article itself, although it IS a good idea for anyone wishing to purchase a firearm to have a background check and a “permission slip”… it’s an issue about gun control, and the way our government wishes to disallow ANYONE from owning firearms. If you doubt my word, go back and REREAD the entire article, and then your STUPID comments!!! You sound more and more like you are schizoid, and on the border of being psychotic… or did you cross the border already?? Just go away, and from now on, don’t comment if you don’t have something that you can say with some degree of intelligence and use correct spelling and punctuation. Not as a favor to only me, but for yourself. From now on, whenever I see your name, I’ll only discount it as just another inane jerk-off and retarded lambast from someone that just wants to lash out at the people that obviously have a CLUE about what’s really happening.

          • 5live5

            you just pointed out the greatest reason AGAINST gun control. It’s not about guns, it’s about CONTROL!

          • kotoc

            Thank you, 5live5. You said what I was really meaning to say. And my idea of gun “control” is being absolutely certain in a crisis that a gun is needed, and should I need to shoot it, the bullet goes EXACTLY where I want it to. In other words, having total CONTROL over my gun.

          • Mark

            kotoc Mark • 2 days ago

            You are the one that doesn’t seem to understand, Mark… I wholeheartedly agree that background checks are a GREAT idea!!! But the Leftist Liberal mind-think (generally speaking) is that NOBODY should be allowed to own firearms. They don’t seem to realize the importance of self-protection. Never mind that there is NOT a police officer protecting every street, every place of business, every school, etc. 24/7 and will be there within seconds should trouble arise. Never mind that there are millions of Leftist Liberal voters that don’t like guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens only wanting to protect themselves because they themselves want easier access to loot and rob whenever they want. The point I’m trying to make is that if you don’t like guns, don’t buy one. You only make it easier for you to be a victim, but it’s your choice.Mark kotoc • 3 days ago

            See you did answer the Question, but your opinion about Dem’s haves nothing to do with the Question……….

            I only wish that YOU could see how foolish you make yourself look… how uneducated and unobservant.

          • homegirl

            Even in the “Wild West” you had to check your guns at the door before entering a saloon.

          • 5live5

            you watch too many movies and read too many fictional books! The REAL West wasn’t as wild as you think!

          • homegirl

            And you know that because?

          • 5live5

            Read the true history of the west of the 1800s. A lot of those “Fast” guns were back shooters!

          • homegirl

            I repeat – Even in the “Wild West” you had to check your guns at the door before entering a saloon.

          • 5live5

            In some, very few, towns!

          • homegirl

            Well, I have you down to six word reply, don’t think I can do better than that. Wallow in your ignorance and FIN.

          • 5live5

            Why? Because I proved your argument invalid? Must not be a very strong argument.

          • 5live5

            Well, let us examine that. I have a friend that was having an argument with his mother who kept following him around the house and wouldn’t give up. he went out on the roof and sat down to get away from he as she wouldn’t let him by her to leave the house. She in turn called the police and they took him to Cleveland Psychiatric hospital and had him admitted. Under some of the laws that have been presented for passage THAT could exempt him from having the ability to own a gun. I went to visit him and the one Dr. there asked me why he was there as there was nothing wrong with him. BUT HE HAD BEEN ADMITTED AND IT’S ON HIS RECORD! A background check will show it. Also, there are too many Dr. out there that are anti-gun, tipping the scales against honest, law abiding, SANE, people! Besides, the constitution does not say ” with proper background check”, it says “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”!!!!!

          • Mark

            So it’s OK for nutcases like you to own a Gun thats been admitted by your Mother, i guess Mother knows best and Dr. means that your Paranoid……LOL…. Your so Paranoid, i bet you trust no one, such a lonely person……

          • 5live5

            YOU are the nutty one and that is exemplified by your randomly worded inane post! If you don’t like guns, DON’T OWN THEM! LEAVE OTHERS ALONE!!!

          • Mark

            Funny I own one, but a little common sense goes along way……..

          • 5live5

            See, you own a gun, but you think you can tell if someone is nuts or not and you can’t even read a sentence or two that tells about a FRIEND of mine NOT ME. Those are the little typos and mistakes that are called “human error” that will enter into those decisions on who can own a gun. your “common sense” goes very little distance.

          • Mark

            I did read about your dumb friend which haves nothing to do with checking with Doctor’s , unless of course he is under treatment………

          • 5live5

            There is legislation in the senate that states that if a person has been ADMITTED to an institution against his will for any reason, they shall be banned from owning a gun. If you had a lick of sense to learn ALL that the liberal anti-gun people are trying to pass, you would see that my post HAS something to do with the subject. That one time of being admitted, regardless of any good reason, is on his record, therefore he could be banned from owning a gun and he is just as sane as you. Maybe more so!

          • Mark

            Senators Joe Manchin from West Virginia and Pat Toomey from Pennsylvania introduced S. 649[25] that would have expanded the existing background check system to cover commercial sales, including sales at gun shows and internet sales, and would have strengthened the existing instant check system by encouraging states to put all their available records into the NICS. The bill would have encouraged states to provide all of their available records to NICS by directing future grant money towards creating systems to send records to NICS and reducing federal funds to states that do not comply. S. 649 did not pass, but may be re-introduced. The Plan focuses primarily on preventing those at risk of committing acts of violence and mass shootings from getting access to guns by extending the NICS to every gun buyer, and not just those who purchase firearms from a federally licensed firearms dealer, and ensuring that the background check system has complete information on people prohibited from having guns.

          • 5live5

            What is it that you don’t understand about “shall not be infringed”???? LEAVE US GUN OWNERS ALONE!! you want to control somebody, control your liberal friends need to control others!

          • Mark

            Your not a regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right is not unlimited and does not prohibit all regulation of either firearms or similar devices.[7] What part of that do Gun owner not understand, no one wants to take your Gun……..

          • 5live5

            At the time of the writing of the constitution, ALL men were part of the militia, therefore your argument caries no weight!

          • Mark

            So dumb ass at the present time there are no militia, so your argument carries no weight!!!!

          • 5live5

            Oh? What is the National Guard?

          • Mark

            So are you in the guard, i don’t think so. as for me i’m retired air force…….

          • 5live5

            Mark, I was active duty Army for six years, three months and twenty-six days along with a year in the national guard on their “try one” program while in college. 18 months of my active duty was in Vietnam as a door gunner/ crew chief.

          • Dixie Darling

            Mark my husband is a Vietnam Veteran that has been on meds for PTSD and Anxiety for many many years, he also has a carry permit and knows right from wrong when it comes to guns. I have been on meds for many years for Depression and Anxiety and also have a permit, I know none of our guns have ever harmed a soul nor will they unless either one of us feels our lives are threatened. Take your background checks and shove them!

          • Mark

            So your both are living on the government dime, So that is why your with the TeaParty,,,,LMAO……

          • Dixie Darling

            no, we worked all our lives and are existing (what we get we can’t really “live” on) on what we have rightfully earned.

          • Mark

            So your husband is 100% disabled thru the VA and collects 2,600 from Tax Payer’s and you both don’t work and collect SS for which you hardly put any thing in to, I would say you are living on the Government Dime,,,,,,,,,,,,,

          • Dixie Darling

            My husband only has 30% disability and has been fighting for 100% for many years. He is 75 and has EARNED his benefits from serving our country for years. I am 61 and have been working since I was 14, and get less than $750 a month. We live from month to month and have absolutely no extra income after everything is paid.If the Government would stop throwing away money on stupid things maybe, just maybe a few things would be better but I know that will never happen because the politicians love lining their pockets with OUR money.

          • Mark

            Well i did 20 and have 40% and still work along with my wife, currently not working, but will start again in March, no help from the TeaParty/Republicans if they had there way Veterans would get nothing…….

          • J. Bailey

            So Mark, just WHO are You ‘trusting’ to determine who is or is not a ‘Lunatic’ …? Our government…? hahaha
            The whole reason for the 2nd is our ForeBearers KNEW about Power and those that have it always want more and will happily take OURS …

          • Mark

            Read the 2nd are you A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,?????

          • J. Bailey

            Commas affect meaning … btw in case you didn’t know a comma is that little curly thing …

          • Mark

            That’t why you need to be able to check Med Records to find nutcases like you…….

          • J. Bailey

            Wow, I rated THREE comments … What, did I trip your trigger …? lol

          • Mark

            My 45…….

          • Mark

            A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

          • J. Bailey

            It is unwise to ever allow a ‘follower’ to paraphrase ANYTHING … as they just regurgitate the Party Line …

          • Mark

            Oh yes the last part of it, do you think they were talking about the Militia????

          • 5live5

            THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!! If you are going to quote it, quote the WHOLE THING!!!

          • Frank J Panzer Jr

            no , Mark you are assback wards

          • Mark

            That’s your opinion, so what makes you think that????

          • Frank J Panzer Jr

            thugs and lunatics can gets guns anywhere off the street

          • Mark

            Yes but one about the ones under doctor care and background checks do not cover them, one less way for lunatics to get guns that is legal…….

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            have no answer

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        • homegirl

          Some thing is wrong here the supporters of “guns for personal protection” claim owning guns is safe and will protect them from criminals and intruders. Does no one see the conflict? If you keep your gun safely locked away and unloaded you will never be able to outdraw the criminal or intruder into your home. So, why have guns if the are not SAFELY accessible?

          • kotoc

            The key word here, homegirl, is RESPONSIBILITY. You don’t just leave your firearms laying around where your kids know where they are. You don’t flash them around in public, or neglect to clean them periodically. You don’t let yourself get “rusty” when it comes to knowing how to handle your firearm. There is no “conflict” when it comes to personal protection… but it IS a case of responsibility when you have a gun. Stupid people should never own a gun!!…. (like the liberals that don’t believe in having a gun anyway.)

          • homegirl

            So, where do you keep your guns safely locked away, unloaded yet accessible in the event of an intruder in your home? How long would it take you to unlock a gun safe, retrieve your weapon(s) and load your weapon? What are the chances you would have enough time to achieve your goal of being armed to protect your home? Or would you have a better chance of survival by pushing the 911 button on your cell phone?

            PS-there are many liberals who own guns, I even know some.

          • J. Bailey

            Gun w/ a magazine does not fire w/o the magazine …
            Intruder enter — slip magazine into weapon — Ready to go
            So responsible choice of appropriate weapon w/ visits to the range … Not that hard, really …

          • homegirl

            So, you keep your gun and the ammunition clip together for ease of access. Hopefully you do not have any children, naturally curious and inventive creatures, in your home.

          • J. Bailey

            Keep the magazine on your person … no, not together as that would negate the process …

          • homegirl

            That sounds like you keep a gun in one pants pocket and the magazine in the other, armed at all times. Do you have pockets in your pajamas?

          • J. Bailey

            Why yes I do … have pocket(s) …

          • kotoc

            I’m glad you agree with me, homegirl. It’s always a good idea to have protection with you all the time. As far as the “liberals who own guns” that you know, do they also have a criminal record? Just curious…

          • homegirl

            You have revealed yourself as a completely brainwashed fool. Your inference that all criminals are liberals or that all liberals are criminals is an indication of your paranoid, brain washed insanity. I would agree with you only on something as obvious as the Sun rising in the East and setting in the West. Spare me any more of your “clever” responses.

          • kotoc

            You, in turn, TOTALLY missed what I was saying, and automatically assumed that I was calling all liberals criminals. I asked if the ones you know have a criminal record, which is a logical question since liberals tend to be AGAINST owning firearms if they are law-abiding (albeit stupid) citizens. And I am NOT the one who is a brainwashed fool… YOU are!! You have shown your ignorance in a really big way.

          • 5live5

            kotoc, I still say if they are against gun ownership and are strong in their beliefs then they should be REQUIRED to put a sign in their front yard that reads ” the residents of this home are anti-gun”! They either won’t be for long, or they won’t BE for long!!

          • 5live5

            If I am home, my gun is on my person. I GUARANTEE I can get to my gun before they get to me. I also have a damn loud dog that starts the second you come on the property!

          • homegirl

            I refer you to a previous poster:

            5live5

            homegirl

            2 days ago

            “My gun is never JUST LAYING AROUND. IT IS CONSTANTLY UNDER MY CONTROL! I am a responsible gun owner. My kids weren’t curious about them, either. I taught both my girls how to shoot at about ten years old. My father did the same thing with me. Neither me NOR my kids have ever been in trouble with a gun and my youngest is now 24! My oldest is 32.”

            He really believes toddlers can be taught to not touch Daddy’s guns!

          • 5live5

            My gun is never JUST LAYING AROUND. IT IS CONSTANTLY UNDER MY CONTROL! I am a responsible gun owner. My kids weren’t curious about them, either. I taught both my girls how to shoot at about ten years old. My father did the same thing with me. Neither me NOR my kids have ever been in trouble with a gun and my youngest is now 24! My oldest is 32.

          • homegirl

            What wonderfully wise and controlled toddlers you raised to the age of ten. Really, they never looked in a closet, drawer or cabinet while you weren’t watching? I hope you sense I am dubious about your claim that they were not curious, were they drugged and complacent at all times? I do however believe your gun is “never JUST LAYING AROUND. IT IS CONSTANTLY UNDER MY CONTROL!” Do wear your holstered gun to bed?

            Where you came up with the inference that your children engaged in criminal activity because you are a gun owner is a puzzle, or somehow a nerve was hit.

          • 5live5

            No, they were taught at a very early age that guns weren’t toys. They never touched my guns without me around and I can GUARANTEE that! And I came up with that idea, because of your post of irresponsible gun owners. As far as where my gun id at night when I’m in bed, It’s none of your damn business. If you really need to know, just break into my house uninvited, you’ll find out.

          • homegirl

            “taught at a very early age” – indeed , how early and what method did you use to “teach” them? Would Child Protective Services be concerned? Break into your home -not bloody likely, in fact I would cross to the other side of the street if I was in danger of meeting you on a public sidewalk.

            “And I came up with that idea, because of your post of irresponsible gun owners.” I can understand this sentence to mean your method of “guaranteeing” is newly devised due to my comment. Remarkable that any of my comments would influence you in any way!

          • 5live5

            “Break into your home -not bloody likely…” Then you have no need to worry where my weapon is at ANY time. As far as your comment on child protective services, my children were very well treated and I was a parent chaperone on many band and sport trips in my children’s school. Very well liked, I might add. I’m a responsible parent as well as a responsible gun owner. My children were shown a lot of love by both parents during their childhood. I also taught them the difference between right and wrong. One is 34 the other 24 and neither has been in any kind of trouble.

      • pete0097

        I suspect, from the translation of your post, that people buying guns is to protect them from people like you.

        • 5live5

          Thank you for translating!!!!

      • Mt Jim

        Mark, I would be dead if you had your way. I simply shot the b****rd crawling in my den window with some sort of weapon.

      • 5live5

        ????????!

    • Neal Avery

      Move to a Glock Block or start one!

  • Robert L Lee Dimmick

    I am with Capt Turbo I have not flown for years nor will I.

    • Spiritof America

      Neither do I. If a person on the streets put their hands on me like TSA does to passengers. Some one would need to bring body bags !

  • kotoc

    I’m just thankful that I never have the need to fly anywhere. Nobody else in my family travels much, either. Airplanes are a great way to travel if you have to go long, long distances in a hurry, but I much prefer the “close up” view of where I’m going on the ground, even if it does take longer. I can stop wherever and whenever I want to, eat whatever I want, nobody “checks” my luggage (I don’t travel out of country) and if I want to bring my own shampoo or toothpaste, it’s no big deal. Yes, it’s supposedly a lot “safer” to travel by air, statistically, but if you run out of gas or have engine problems, at least you’re not 30,000 feet up and away from a stopping place.

  • ABBAsFernando

    A Muslim TERRORIST infests the White House who openly provides aid and support to Muslim terrorists today.

  • Mr.Mopar

    I avoid flying if at all possible. I’m sick of the TSA, sick of the charges for checking baggage, sick of pint- size seats and jammed kneecaps (I’m 6’1″ and 250 and I really empathize with the 6’2″ and bigger brethren) I’m also sick of flight delays and overbooking. (Overbooking really sticks in my craw. Can you imagine going to the Dodge dealer, ordering a new Challenger and paying for it, and then having the salesman tell you “Sorry, we sold them all”? That would go over like a turd in the punch bowl.) Not to mention the fact that you’re held hostage to the outrageous pricing of airport food courts, since you can’t bring your own tuna or bologna sandwich- oooh, you might hide a bomb in the mayo. I’ll drive where I need to go. The 747s can sit on the tarmac.

    • truthseeker

      Frontier Air Lines stated they had more seats. Yes they do . What they did is got rid of two Bathrooms and you cannot use the First class Bathroom. I tried and was informed I needed to wait or go back to my seat until the line went down. You need to carry a Urinal with you when You fly with them. I love watching the Korea Airlines who everyone have their own cubical, but you got to fly to Korea for that one.

  • truthseeker

    It is gotten to the point that I do not care so much about the Terriost as I do about my rights. The reason people like to have a carry on luggage is because if they loose you luggage, well you put the things you will need like if you have Glaucoma you need your drops, high blood pressure and such that you cannot go without, but do not want to carry in you pocket. We already have Muslims employed as a TSA person, but we cannot discriminate even though they do and call us infidels .

    • 5live5

      Try being an insulin diabetic. They sure as hell aren’t going to let you carry syringes in your pocket.

  • Finder1009

    This kind of thing doesn’t effect me, i quit flying many years ago. Airline seating has sucked for years. Food on Airlines has only barely qualified as food since before i quit flying. Profit over comfort has been a watchword for airlines for nearly as long as i can remember. It’s been a great surprise to me that most airlines haven’t gone out of business years ago.

  • conductor1

    I feel our government should make a statement that any jihadist caught will NOT be allowed special religious rights while incarcerated, or such as Osama bin Laden’s burial at sea within 24 hours.

    Why? Because part of the recruiting and grooming of these people is based them following strict Islamic law and receiving the associated perks from Allah in return. We should be doing everything in our power to make it clear to them that if caught, we will not facilitate their religious expectations. In fact, we should make their cells look like the flames of hell, and give them a picture of Satan to show them who is in charge where they are going.

    The idea of making Guantanamo literally a country club in order to appease Democrats was a stupid mistake. In Obama’s twisted mind, little actions and appearances of mutual respect throughout his policies toward Islam were supposed to somehow de-escalate jihadist tensions. Instead it only got more innocent people killed, gave rise to even worse groups, and earned nothing more than the enemy’s contempt for Obama’s weakness.

    • 5live5

      If they are a terrorist and killed here the ba$tards should be covered in pig grease before burial!

      • kotoc

        Let the terrorists be doused in pig’s blood and feces before being shot and dumped into a mass grave… film it and send the video to the rest of the terrorists and perhaps that will give them cause for pause before attempting another strike at the U.S. people.

  • MegaMouseGW

    It is well past time to put an international bounty on the heads of all terrorists and terrorist supporters.

  • barry1817

    there is often precious little that can be done when a person has no problem being a suicide murderer. And can we stop with this nonsense of suicide bomber, as if the person is killing himself and just things.

    And why are we even concerned with anything save execution if we catch these people prior to the bomb going off. they want to be dead, make it happen, and make sure they see the bullets soaked in pig fat before putting one bullet in his testicles and one in his brain

  • J. Harp

    If the Muslim Terrorists want to affect the airline industry, it appears to be working. Of course, if it were me, terrorism works both ways. I would notify Iran that If an act of terrorism is carried out against an airline or country by the Muslims, I would simply bomb Tehran to exact several times more deaths than the murdering Muslims. Everyone of these murdering, scumbag, low-life Muslims are cut from the same cloth anyway so I really would not care if their act of terrorism was by Iranian nationals, or not. I would simply notify Iran if you do not have influence now with whomever carried out the terrorist attack, you had better find a way to establish such influence, because YOU are going to suffer the consequences every time an attack occurs! The Iranians are ruthless and murderous, but they are NOT stupid! Just let them get POUNDED a few times and you might see a considerable reduction in their terrorism! If not, they just simply continue to pay the price for failure to reign in the rest of their Satanic Muslim cult!

  • homegirl

    How I wish the airlines would eliminate “carry on” luggage. Adding to the discomfort of overcrowded seating and movement conditions by permitting two roll-ons per passenger is tempting fate. There are more than 1000 accidents a years caused by luggage falling from overhead bins.

    Are we all in such a rushed state that we cannot wait for our luggage at the carousel? Too many people have delusions of grandeur about their own importance.

    Oh, for a return to the days when you received some service on airliners. Does anyone else remmeber Pan American? If you were a passenger on an early morning flight a buffet continental breakfast was laid on in the lounge area, magazines and newspapers on board, eye shades and flight attendants who helped with your small children.

    So, I am all for stopping the carry on practice and eliminating the charge for the first 40 lbs. of checked baggage.

    • J. Bailey

      How about a lot less Big Government … w/ the return of the Free Market aka let the airlines run THEIR airlines allowing US, as Consumers, to CHOOSE … Those we ‘don’t like’ FAIL (go Bankrupt) ’cause No MONEY …
      btw we don’t have a Democracy but a Constitutional Republic (or DID) until Big Brother got his nose into every facet of our LIVES …!! Soooo if you don’t like Carry-On … don’t use Carry-On but don’t try to tell me NOT because I LIKE Carry-On just in case the airlines loses my luggage … Happens you know …
      A friend of mine was a Stewardess for Pan Am – so yes I DO remember BUT if I wanted help w/ small children, eye shades, newspaper/magazine – I’d rather provide my own – when I flew (not since TSA) I WAS in a hurry to get somewhere … That’s why I flew …

  • Skinpower

    If the airline passenger meets the profile of the preceding terrorists, don’t let them on the plane. Simple.

  • Dandyangie

    Terrorist are already here…The Nazi nigger in our White House

  • homegirl

    The NRA experienced a rare defeat in Congress as surgeon general is confirmed. (Photo: Josh Lopez)

    It took a technical parliamentary maneuver by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)
    that backfired, but after long last the National Rifle Association (NRA)
    has lost a vote.

    Vivek Murthy, MD, was confirmed on Monday as the nation’s next
    surgeon general – despite a strong lobbying push against him by the NRA,
    because he views gun violence as a public health problem. This
    perspective among many physicians has long been a primal fear of the
    NRA. The fanatical organization, operating on behalf of the gun industry
    and armed white males (which is the subtext of its coded appeals to
    racial fears), is concerned that if gun violence is considered an
    epidemic, then it might erode the rallying cry of the Second Amendment
    meme by shifting the focus of the debate on guns.

  • homegirl

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  • homegirl

    What ‘The Colbert Report’ Taught Us About the Psychology of Conservatives

    Leslie Savan on December 18, 2014 – 1:23 PM ET

    No one thought that Stephen Colbert, the character, would last this
    long. His right-wing, self-regarding, bloviating pundit was a shtick, a
    bit, good for a year or two, tops.

    As Colbert said
    Monday of the soon-to-retire Michele Bachmann, “Godspeed, Michele,
    Godspeed. I cannot believe you kept up that crazy conservative character
    for eight years.”

    But for nine years now Colbert has been reminding us that politics,
    and the right-wing shtick in particular, is a performance.* For his last
    show, tonight, the Grim Reaper will reportedly be taking him out. But
    we can thank his longevity in part to the still longer reigns of his
    sources of inspiration—“Papa Bear” Bill O’Reilly, of course, but also
    Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Steve Doocy, and the Fox News mindset
    itself.

    We can also thank these last nine years to the very thing that made them seem improbable: as a character,
    and not merely a critic, of the right, Colbert held a unique key to the
    riddle of modern conservatism: How do they keep getting away with it?
    Why have so many conservatives turned into such small-minded haters and
    deniers of science, of reality? Voters tend to disagree with their
    actual policies, so why do they keep voting for them?

    We liberals keep banging our heads against the wall of their illogic,
    and in frustration sputter the only explanation we can think of:
    “They’re… they’re… they’re INSANE!”

    Instead of trying the key from the outside, as most critics of the
    right must, Colbert jiggled it from the inside, counterfeit though his
    key was. By inhabiting their heads via a character, Colbert could
    demonstrate, four nights a week, how right-wing psychology works.

    And so in his last “Formidable Opponent”
    segment, the rabid-right Stephen said that America would never torture.
    The more moderate Stephen countered that the Senate report proves it
    does. To which the first Stephen replies, “Oh, I’m not talking about the
    actual country. I’m talking about the idea of America. The idea of America would never torture….And that, my friend, is why I choose to live in the idea of America.”

    You can’t stick with that kind of truthiness-based character (and
    play him in public appearances off the show) without some sympathy for
    him, and even for conservatism itself.

    Colbert expressed that sympathy by showing that beneath his
    character’s assertion of omnipotence and certitude, there’s a fragility,
    one that’s also buried in most of the real-life blowhards and their
    dittoheads.

    If they stop clapping, Tinker Bell will die. If they stop nodding in
    agreement, or step off the reservation of Tax Cuts, Guns, and Built It
    Myself, they could get Other-ed. If you stop stampeding in one
    direction, you get trampled.

    Every night, Colbert’s character would steel himself to stay on the straight and narrow path out of fear.

    His braggadocio disguised the fact that he was a coward and a big baby. (In that, the character closest to Colbert would be Lawton Smalls, Marc Maron’s old right-wing foil
    who’d break down and sob when he could no longer maintain his political
    delusions.) Every now and then Colbert would come apart at the seams,
    hiding under the desk, or going off on how we have to wipe bears off the
    face of the earth! Conceivably, bears stood for Russia, as in the
    Reagan “Bear in the Woods” commercial,
    or maybe for Papa Bear. But more likely, Colbert’s bear fear was fear
    itself, an irrational dread of something he’d never encounter, like
    death panels or jack-booted government thugs coming to take his guns.
    Were they going to take “Sweetness,” the pistol he’d caress and which
    was, as far as we know, Stephen’s only serious love interest?

    More frequently, though, Colbert would ride fearlessly straight
    through his absurdities, oblivious to any problems at all. That was the
    Inspector Clouseau aspect of Colbert. It’s the character’s odd innocence
    and the real person’s heart that combine, I think, to create so much
    affection and outright love for Colbert.

    I’ve always said that I appreciate Jon Stewart (and I really, really like John Oliver), but I love Stephen. I laugh so hard I cry, and in crying, I swoon.

    It’s commonly thought that Stewart does the harder-hitting political
    satire. But Colbert, softly sheathed in fiction, can actually bite much
    deeper. Colbert is in fact more of a threat to O’Reilly—who seems to
    actively dislike him—while O’Reilly and Stewart are mutually supportive
    buds.

    On occasion, Colbert shared in Stewart’s left-and-right false
    equivalencies—as he did by co-hosting the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or
    Fear in 2010. But Colbert also does things closer to the activism that Stewart tends to find so uncool. Like when he testified
    before a House Judiciary subcommittee about the plight of migrant farm
    workers, or when, in one of the most brilliant, ballsy moments in comedy
    ever, he hosted the 2006 White House Correspondent’s Dinner. Standing just feet from President George W. Bush, Colbert, the character, said:

    We’re not so different, he and I. We get it. We’re not brainiacs on the nerd patrol. We’re not members of the factinista. We go straight from the gut, right sir?…

    Please support our journalism. Get a digital subscription for just $9.50!

    The greatest thing about this man is he’s steady. You know where he
    stands. He believes the same thing Wednesday that he believed on Monday,
    no matter what happened Tuesday. Events can change; this man’s beliefs
    never will.

    But Colbert bit most deeply into the attending Beltway journalists, who famously found him unfunny:

    Over the last five years you people were so good—over tax
    cuts, WMD intelligence, the effect of global warming. We Americans
    didn’t want to know, and you had the courtesy not to try to find out.
    Those were good times, as far as we knew.

    But, listen, let’s review the rules. Here’s how it works: the
    president makes decisions. He’s the Decider. The press secretary
    announces those decisions, and you people of the press type those
    decisions down. Make, announce, type. Just put them through a spell
    check and go home. Get to know your family again. Make love to your
    wife. Write that novel you’ve got kicking around in your head. You know,
    the one about the intrepid Washington reporter with the courage to
    stand up to the administration. You know—fiction!

    It’s hard to imagine that the nonfiction Stephen Colbert would say anything like that to a guest on The Late Show. But you never know. He’s amazed us before.

    *I was on the O’Reilly show years ago, arguing in defense of
    Martha Stewart, who was then headed to prison. After our joust, as I was
    getting up to leave, O’Reilly said to me, “The audience loves this
    stuff.” As if he was admitting it was all for show.

  • doctorbob

    WHY, pray tell, are British Jihadis even allowed to re-enter the country? WAKE UP, UK! You need to terminate ALL rights of anyone, British or otherwise, who goes to Syria to fight for ISIS. Make sure they understand it’s a one-way trip when they leave. Do not compromise on this! You owe your protection and efforts to ensure safety for ALL air passengers. Or, how many citizens, British and otherwise, are you willing to sacrifice to appease Muslims? That’s not a rhetorical question. I would like to know how many innocent citizens you are willing to sacrifice before you take action? 100? 1000? ALL of us?

  • Dixie Darling

    never have and never will fly