After Turning His Back On Conservatives, Paul Ryan Gets REALLY Bad News

House Speaker Paul Ryan, a veritable traitor who sold out every conservative in America last week when he signed off on a $1.1-trillion omnibus bill that handed President Barack Obama everything he wanted, might be close to suffering some major payback for this latest sell-out.

Writing for Crows Nest Politics, Ken Crow, former leader of Tea Party of America, urged his many followers to begin searching for a local ‘candidate willing to primary Paul Ryan in the 1st District.’

Crow wrote:

“All patriots should contact your group’s leaders and begin organizing nationwide to put down this RINO in order that he is not re-elected to his seat in Wisconsin. The Badger State patriots need to begin soliciting your State Senators, high-profile business leaders or the State Legislators who reside within the 1st District of Wisconsin.”

Crow’s poignant message got picked up by The Gateway Pundit and Fox News, and eventually made its way onto the Facebook page for the Wisconsin Tea Party.

This means, in effect, that the movement to get rid of the conservative traitor Paul Ryan has officially begun. In fact, someone already set up a “Primary Paul Ryan” Facebook page that had already accumulated over 18,000 followers.

Any challenger to Speaker Ryan will need money – and probably lots of it. Ryan already has a campaign war chest of about $5 million in funds. However, recent history has shown that it’s possible to beat a powerful incumbent, even if they’ve raised more money.

Dave Brat pulled the biggest upset in recent history when he defeated House Majority Leader Eric Cantor in the 7th Congressional District of Virginia back in June of 2014. Cantor raised $5.4 million in that election cycle versus Brat’s $206,000.

The levels of anger and frustration from conservative and Republican voters towards Congress and the President are at all-time high levels. People are tired of supporting and voting for candidates who say one thing, then do the opposite. Given recent history and voter sentiment, we wouldn’t be surprised if Paul Ryan faced a challenger in this year’s primary – and would lose this election.

Do you think that Speaker Ryan will face the same fate as Eric Cantor did two years ago?

Sound off in the comments section below.

243 COMMENTS

  1. Ryan most certainly needs to go! It was a shame for Congress to put him
    as Speaker! He is as worthless to America as obama! Both need to go ASAP!

    • He’s very much a globalist as far as immigration is concerned. He is all for getting as many immigrants in this country as possible, legally, or illegally.

    • Pelosi and Reid were excited because he is LEVEL headed and willing to WORK WITH in a bi -partisan way to accomplish what’s good for citizens rather than execute the playground tactics of the Tea Dummies or the evil CIA’s Herr KKKarl Rove. LEVEL, not extreme right fascism. I am so liberal that I almost meet the far right at the top of the circle and I liked Paul Rayan. I told a friend that I would consider him for president before ANY that are running, I was embarrassed to say it of course, and then came his deplorable behavior during the State of the Union. Childish at best, that seems to be the way of things with conservatives right now.

      • You are either very ignorant or a troll. The POTUS has and is doing things that are beligerant to the constitution. In other words he is committing treason against the constitution of which he swore an oath to uphold and defend. Both Bushes did the same thing, so did Bill Clinton. But that doesn’t matter to you because you never served your country as I did. I swore that same oath, to uphold and defend the constitution of the United States from all enemies both foreign and domestic. For a politician, judge, police officer to not uphold their oath is an act of treason against the constitution. But, you and others like you could not give a damn. All of the POTUS’s and a multitude of congress now and in years past have done the same thing. We are losing this nation I fought for along with millions of other veterans. Our sacrifices mean nothing to the likes of you.

          • I went to a grave side service today for my husband’s uncle who was a veteran. Two Navy personnel were there and they played taps (so sad and poignant) which made me think of everyone who fought for this country. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. When they gave the flag to my husband the young Navy man said the president of the United States thanks you for your service. We accepted it solemnly, but I wanted to ask him what he thought of our Commander and Chief. I should have felt more pride had he been someone else.

          • I’d say you were a bit quick to jump to insults without asking first. It couldn’t possibly have been physical condition or anything like that that kept him from serving, now could it? That’s why I couldn’t get in when I tried.

          • There are lots of reasons why one is unable to serve in the military so lets not make unfounded accusations with no facts. If you served in the army as you stated you know that lots of things can prevent serving. Enlisted people have RATE officers have RANK to the best of my knowledge..

          • Mel, Don’t Worry, Bob Marcum Is Obviously One of The Hateful People Who Like To ‘Troll’ These Comments To See Just Who He Can Make Fun of In The Worst Way. There are Those Out There, Who’s Life Is So IRRELEVANT That They Have To Make Fun of People To ‘Feel’ Good’ About Themselves, When There IS Nothing Good About Themselves. (Bob Marcum, IF you REPLY, I Will Delete it Without Reading It.)

          • ‘We should never elect anyone , for president, who hasn’t done his share of military time’. Your words there Bob. I respect you for your service but some of us chose not to serve due to the rules of engagement and because of who was president at the time. You obviously served under a better commander in chief than some of us would have!!

          • I started my military tour, under Kennedy ( 1962 ).
            I was in Uijongbiu,Korea, when I learned of Kennedy’s
            assasination, over my teletype.I relayed the news, to Seoul,
            headquarters. Then; of course, it was Johnson, giving the orders.

          • I met several GREAT soldiers that got out during the Clinton admin and people won’t EVEN consider signing on now!!!!

        • Thank you, and ALL active military personnel and veterans, for your DEDICATED service to this once great country. The so called “commander-in-chief” has SO disgraced his role, and mistreated the armed services, I just don’t understand why he is still “acting president”!!!! He should have been removed YEARS ago!!

          • We should never elect anyone , for president, who hasn’t done his share of military time. My grandfather was in the army. My father was a cook, in the Navy, on the “USS SAMARITON ” ( a hospital ship, off several coastlines ), at various assigned positions in WW2.
            My brother was a 20 year, retiree, of the navy ( rank E-10 ), when
            he retired. I, myself, did 5 years of regular army, as a radio teletype operator, in the vietnam era ( assigned, to Korea and then, Germany, during that time ). Then; 8 years later, I began
            a 6 year stretch, of the La., National Guard. I didn’t go for a
            retirement, in the guard, because, it was about to cost me my civilian job. So, I was forced to resign.

          • Thank you and your family for your service! My dad was with the medics during WWII. He would be turning over in his grave if he were able to see what was going on today.

            He said, back in the 1950’s and 1960’s, that the communists were teaching in the schools. People thought he was crazy.

            But guess what, HE WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Originally that was the way it was, until Clinton, a draft Dodger became president. How can anyone who has no Idea how t he military works, become commander in chief, and become and effective military leader? Impossible!!!

          • And you see how well the defense of the nation has gone which is the main job of the president almost no border security and refugees coming in un-vetted

          • I agree with you Bob.
            I have always felt that the Commander n Chief of the US Armed Forces should have served in the US Armed Forces.

          • Your absolutely right on that statement. their should be at least someone from our military that play a big part in conduction military decisions, abama took Petraus out and set him up because he didn’t want to win the war in Iraq or Afghanistan. he allow for ISIS to march when he could have stopped them, many countries were call for help to stop them obama refused. the death of all those people are on his hands, Where is the UN and other leaders. Why haven’t they gone after him.

          • The UN is a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood.

            That is an exaggeration but in reality it is really an anti American group that functions primarily on USA $$$. I have no idea why we are still in the UN.

          • Good post but just one question as a retired navy when did they institute the rating of E-10? When I retired in 1974 the highest enlisted rate was E-9. Unless the new one was started when they came out with the position of CPO on the navy not sure about that please advise. Thanks

          • Yeah; I’m set back, with the foot-in-mouth deseise.
            Hey; I don’t spell, too good, either. lol
            You’re absolutely correct. I was careless, with my info.
            My brother held the highest, NCO rank, as a master chief.
            That would be, apparently, E-9. He was chief, in the engine
            room, on aircraft carriers, responsible, for maintaining the
            nucleur, power generators, for the electicity on the carrier.
            Quoting his E-9 rank, as E-10, was careless. Sorry-bout-that.

          • I think that the E-10 rank was for one “ceremonial person) from each service. (Command Sargent Major of the Army)

          • I can’t say for any other service but the U. S. Coast Guard has one E-10 who is the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Coast Guard assigned to the Commandant’s office. His rating badge has three stars above the eagle.
            If I recall correctly the rate was established in the late 1970s or early 1980s.

          • Thanks I stand corrected just wasn’t aware of the change. Lots has changed sense 1974. I’m sure the other services are the same as Coast Guard.

          • Because he is the president of a private-for-profit corporation as in de Facto government, as in CEO (puppet). You can’t impeach private-for-profit executives. Enter, executive orders and not laws of a deFacto Congress and Senate. Where is the safe-guarding ‘balance’ provided by our Founding Fathers? Due diligence is in order. You are absolutely correct in saying, “acting” as they all have. The deception goes deep, far and wide as you are all going to soon find out unless you research for yourselves before-hand.
            Our Constitution and our government were hi-jacked in 1789 when Congress recessed and they never returned and are still in recess. Subsequently, a de Facto government under the crown with a bogus constitution is the one we’ve been forced to live under and not our original Constitution. DC occupiers do not live by the laws they enforce on us. They are upholding the bogus oath they took to the crown, not America.

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            Come to nationallibertyalliance.org and learn of your true rights that have been usurped and help save our endowed natural, God-given unalienable rights before they are completely dismantled.

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        • Here’s the crux of the matter Allen.
          The Declaration of Independence, Constitution w/Bill of RIGHTS total about 17 pages.
          What kind if Ed. system would leave the study of these from kindergarten thru college?
          Something absolutely essential is not happening in the learning it takes to become a true American- beyond being born with freedoms under Liberty like sheep, to be then led by statist/socialist Ed. system to PC mentalities as directed by anti-American wolves ~!

        • What is sad is that you and yours don’t understand what happened in ’63 I guess. You all seem so surprised at what is going on with in our government and as you say has been going on. I would think that those who have been lied to and coerced into military service under the quise of “protect and defend” would know. I would think that those who have been played and used and abused by the governments war games over the past 53 years would be outraged at their manipulation in some purposely created need for “national security”. Yet instead of doing the research you swallow things like the San Bernardino event as real, happening without the guidance of those who run the country the government and the media; the far right wing group who exacted the coup. I don’t know how so many know so little, here’s the deal, our elected officials have nothing to do with what happens, policy is set by the CIA/Military and has been for a long time, are we just waking up to the facts or have we not bothered to look?

      • You just think you are smarter then the rest us, and are upset because thinking people don’t want to kiss your Progressive Democrat or RINO a$$.
        Go craw back under you Socialist or Communist Rock. Better yet move to
        a Socialist country like GREECE then you might learn something about
        Socialism and Communism.

        • Barney should live there too. He’s so quick to push Socialism on us. Live there Barney so they can take 90% of what you make!

        • GREECE? I won a trip to GREECE? Oh wow!! I always wanted to go there!! their cuisine and culture are the foundation of civilization, the bedrock on which we are founded. You’re buying my ticket? I am not sure where you got the idea that I don’t understand Socialism or Communism but I do. I learned it early in my life at the church, from my Bible, through the teachings of the great Avatars i.e. Jesus, Buddha, Lao Tzu, and a pantheon of Greek gods.

      • That’s not really the issue. There’s nothing wrong with working with folks—that’s how it should be. But NOT when one party always gives in to the other one and gives them ALL that they want and THAT’S exactly what Ryan did—same as old Boehner. To work together—BOTH PARTIES must give and take—not just one all of the time. The GOP is so scared to being called racist or God knows what…… It’s TIME for these bozos to grow some gonads.

        • Very well put. I have known times when it was the other way around. I understand how it feels to watch your ideas go down in flames. The pendulum swings, the most that we can hope for is that those who are negotiating remember that it all effects the people, there’s the downfall yes?

      • You haven;t see anything yet liberal dem bloodsucker.
        The dec 2014 poll found that 11.4 % of the people want their state to secede from the union.
        The poll of Dec 2015 has 23.9 % of the people that want to their state to seceded from the UNion.
        About 2 years we will have enough, separate the liberal dem bloodsuckers.
        You liberal scum may then do it any way that you like, we will go back to running a real county.

        • LMFAO! You are very funny, you should do some master of ceremonies for republican fund raisers. That 23.9% is dangerously close to the 27% illiterate in this country… hummmm. Now there’s an American crime that you could for instead of wasting time complaining about liberals, illiteracy in our country is a sad state of affairs, lazy is the word that comes to mind. Without reading people can be easily duped with the right wing propaganda of fascism, oooohhhh now I get it, never mind.
          If it were still 1855 you and yours would be right at home in your “real country”; hangin’ niggers and beating them for entertainment; squatting on land that belongs to no one, never has never will; white European supremacy reigning over the terrorism committed against native peoples, Mexicans and Catholics; raping the land at will; totting guns in holsters and show downs at high noon; 90% uneducated; using the bible to support evil works and atrocities against society, bullies, dumb bullies. You don’t understand that outside the trailer park that you and the 27% are watercooler jokes, laughable throwbacks of some not so honorable actions against humanity. President Bush(the CIA Chief one) and his NWO has placed us in a world not a country, we are not going back to bowling leagues and bobby socks, no white and colored drinking fountains. Good luck in your fight, I wouldn’t mind living in Mayberry again but I don’t think we can get there from here. The hearts of men are too hardened to co exist, mostly from a lack of education. Only by love can anything change, by the arts and by literacy, by knowing history beyond the version of lies found there, by understanding the spiritual nature of man which is not found within the Christian doctrine of the 27%. The condition of the world around us is our responsibility resolved by our actions. what we wend out comes back to us and creates the world in which we chose to exist. Change your thinking and change your life. Peace.

          • Oh my, I seem to have stirred the wrath of the liberal dem bloodsucking parasite.
            Actually my friend, you ersatz human beings have arrived.
            We have cordially despised you for the last 50 years, primarily because of your complete lack of merit, worth,. value, morals honor or integrity.
            We have evolved over the last 7 years , however, we now hate you with a depth, intensity and bitterness that has no bottom.
            We are equal opportunity haters, we hate all of the liberal dem bloodsucking leeches, without regard to race, gender, creed, color or sexual orientation.
            We intend to separate ourselves from you ticks, at that point, you may raise taxes on every rich person or businesses, silly enough to stay in your portion, to 90% and buy everything for every one.
            All of your perverted friends may get married, all of your bent gender friends can use restrooms with your wives, daughters, mothers and sisters.
            You may bring all of the Mexicans in Mexico into your portion and all of the rapist, killer Muslims into your portion.
            The toy can confiscate all weaponry.
            your life will be wonderful
            We will fortify our borders and go back to running a real country again, shooting anyone that crosses ours borders illegally, then watch you garbage as you starve to death.
            That will be fun

          • Nope no wrath within this writer. I honor your freedom to speak and would fight with you to maintain that. I will say that your hate level is sad because I know that you have been incited by talking heads who do not yet understand their power or maybe they do which makes it a crime. Your ok buddy, it’ll all work out just fine if you just live Namaste. Peace to you and in your heart. You point your arrows in the wrong direction, watch your back my friend.

          • What you liberal dem bloodsuckers are having trouble with is understanding that this is no longer about politics.
            You people really did think, that, all you have to do was keep talking.
            You were/are in error.
            I have peopel watching my back, it’s likely that you life forms will need that, soon.

          • What the hell are you babbling about? Politics hasn’t been anymore than a function to keep us busy since the far right wing coup of 1963. If you would do a rewrite that makes some cohesive sense I would read it.

          • Actually, we have wasted way too much time talking with your parasites.
            You will understand when you see it.

      • You are a perfect example of why liberalism s/b considered a mental illness. I guess you think that Reid and Pelosi were willing to work in a “bi-partisan way”. Maybe what you said is sarcasm, if not it is deplorable even from a wrong hander.

      • You should know that there is never bi-partisan results with democrats. It is either 100% their way or the highway if they don’t get everything they want.

        • Yep, That’s why Obama is using his executive orders. It’s his way or the highway. That’s why it looks like the Congress can’t get anything passed. He does not want to hear what the other side has to say.

          • Wow do you live in a fantasy world! Unless you are talking about special rights that remove the rights of others. Do you mean the right to murder unborn babies? The right to buy a wedding cake against the religious beliefs of others? The right to collect something for nothing thru the.federal govt. while someone else sacrifices their time and labor? The right to get a job even though you are far less qualified than another because your skin color matters more? How about the right to equal pay just because you are human and not because you have better skill levels or a better education than another. You know $15/he for a job description that any 10 year old.can do? Those kind of rights that give special rights to those at the expense of others? Naivete is the forte of liberals.

          • What a bunch of typical use of stealing someone else’s rights to satisfy your own. I’m gonna open a restaurant and I am Christian, if you come in and I have any suspicion that you and your husband don’t have twin beds then you will not be served! Get behind me satan!!

          • I have a right to my own labor, which according to SCOTUS is my property, and to do with it as I so please. YOU have a right to go somewhere else for your service if your request is infringing on my WELL ESTABLISHED religious beliefs as supported by the bible. Your liberal ways are a clear sign that you do not understand the true meaning of being a Christian. Christ himself said when many stand before their judgment and say , “Lord Lord I did all these things in your name,” and the Lord said, ” be gone, for I know you not”. BEWARE. It is you that is showing a pile of crock by believing that special rights are God given rights as spoken by the constitution.

          • Not special rights but common rights. What you believe cannot infringe on my rights nor can my rights infringe on your rights. I understand Christianity quite well thank you, I am an ordained Southern Baptist minister. Perhaps some time with the Beatitudes and the Sermon on the Mount are in your best interest. You might also want to read the verse left out of every conversation such as this, “judge not”, it refers to anything or anyone, that’s my judgement. Love your neighbor as yourself.

          • Fact, it was determined decades ago that a large minority of graduate pastor’s are not saved. If you know your bible then you should know the judgement scripture is referring to is condemnation of the sinner. Christians are allowed to be fruit inspectors and judge sin itself. Ever heard, “do not make a brother stumble”. “If eating meat offends your brother then don’t eat meat. You expect Christians to do the opposite. Ever heard “Do not be double minded.” You’re trying to tell me Christ would compromise his convictions? Loving my neighbor has nothing to do with compromising my convictions. You being an ordained pastor means nothing. Look at the condition of the church today. Even some of the southern Baptist churches are compromising the convictions that caused God to destroy an entire world.

          • Just more evidence you are a typical lying liberal. If you were an ordained baptist pastor you would know those are verses from the bible! I determined NOTHING! Those are God’s words.Take it up with God. HE IS YOUR JUDGE.

          • What verses? You have sent me no reference. It must be some doomsday crap you spread around. I’m glad that God will be my judge and not you. “Judge not”, period. The end. Thanks for the accusation that I am not a minister…that’s judgement but not very discerning…….nor accurate. God is love, nothing bad can happen if that’s true, but your thinking creates what you fear so change your thinking. Why choose what is ugly when we are provided a way to change anything? Afraid of the your own power? Gotta give it away to some bearded fantasy in a big chair in the sky watching every move you make?

          • “I sent you no references..” LOL! These are basic bible verses known by most high school kids who are well churched. Here, look them up and make an even bigger fool of yourself.

            Mathew 7:15-20, Romans 14:20, 1 Corinthians 10:32, James 1:8,

            FYI, different versions of the bible use different words that mean the same. I have at least 6 versions of the bible. How many do you have?

            Moreover, Satan and his servants are “ministers”. 2 Corinthians 11:14-15.

            YES, God is love, but YOU obviously are not familiar with the fact that God is a RIGHTEOUS God and therefore He is also a God of vengeance, Isaiah 34:8, Jeremiah 51:6, Ezekiel 25:14, 17, Micah 5:15, and a jealous God, Nahum 1: 2-3, and an angry God, Psalm 78:31, and a God that destroyed 2 cities and an entire world for making a mockery of God’s design and intent for mankind.

            And you are correct in saying that nothing bad comes from God. God simply allows man to walk in his own evil ways and He allows nature to take it’s course. Common sense tells us that evil will beget evil. And God will punish that evil.

            Numbers 14:8 ‘The Lord is slow to anger and abounding in
            steadfast love, forgiving iniquity and transgression, BUT HE WILL BY NO MEANS CLEAR THE GUILTY, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the
            children, to the third and the fourth generation.’

            God certainly will be your judge and he will not judge you based on the good works that you think you do. Romans 4:2-4, Romans 11:6, Ephesians 2:9, (Jesus speaking) Acts 26:16-18, Mathew 5:19-20, John 14:21

            Try these on for size and be your own judge. I certainly cannot judge whether you are saved from hell or not but you yourself will know. But by the fruit that you bear others can certainly know whether we are walking with God or walking our own erred path.
            1 John 2:4-5
            The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him.

            No man is without sin and the dividing line between the saved and the unsaved is clearly stated above. Even a saved person will continue to sin but he makes no excuse for it and his heart desires to repent of that sin and turn back towards God. NOT to continue on in it and make excuses. Romans 7:14-25

            Even if you truly are an “ordained minister”, you have shown absolutely no clear, unadulterated understanding of the bible. You passive use of God’s Word puts you in danger of Revelation 22:18-19 BEWARE

          • Yes, ignoring Paul (to Tim) “…listen to the Church.” and interpreting scripture on one’s own, verse plucking those that we believe supports our misinterpretations and ignoring those which does not support our mis-beliefs has resulted in 40,000 man-made churches all contradicting each other.

          • Would you like to tell me where that verse is in the bible? I would suggest that you get yourself a Strong’s concordance and learn that the word “church” means “assembly”. In other words, “the body of Christ”. Moreover, God has given all believers the ability to understand scripture through His Holy Spirit. 2nd Peter 1:20 Pastors or priests that teach only church leaders are capable of interpreting the bible are teaching heresy. WHY do you think when Christ died, the temple curtain into the Holy of Holies was torn in two? So ALL people can have equal access to God!

            No question that we all have different gifts, and “some are called to be teachers….” Ephesians 4:11. BUT, this passage is referring to the gifts God gives us for the building up of the church (assembly), NOT meaning that we can’t learn the meaning of the bible on our own with the guidance of God’s Spirit. If this is not so then how can anyone expect to have a “personal” relationship with Jesus Christ?

            Keep in mind that it is “teachers” themselves that have caused misinterpretation of scripture. In your words “listening to the church” and not relying on God’s Holy Spirit to guide each believers understanding of the scriptures has caused those “40,000 man-made churches” into existence. In other words, man relying on man, rather than God’s Spirit, will fail us the majority of the time!

            The “teachers” that I refer to are those who teach that are not called to teach and lean on their own understanding.not seeking the understanding available thru God’s Holy Spirit. Those do exist in the church, and most mean no harm. They fail to realize that teaching comes with added accountability, James 3:1, and those that teach will be judged more strictly.

            Liberals that look at only God’s love and think they can live their lives in their own accord and God will forgive them (because He is ALL love) are in for a rude awakening. I do not wish that “rude awakening” on anyone since their souls will be in hell because they choose to be ignorant of their need to repent and accept Christ as their savior.

          • Return to school; even the Father of Logic, Aristotle knew that “contradictions cannot exist at the same time” which is why we have 40,000+ man-made churches today, all playing “my Holy Spirit tops your Holy Spirit” e.g. “gay marriage is what Jesus taught” (Presbyterian) [my HS taught me that, versus, “marriage is between one man and one woman” (Anglican & Jesus’ Church) [my HS taught me this] — you are not even logical enough to follow any of your text until you go back and get an education, and put your “big-boy” pants on or one of the ladies here.

          • It appears that you are not mature enough to understand scripture that is as clear as a bell. You are still on milk, believing that man has all the answers when scripture is clear that men understand scripture ONLY thru the leading of the Holy Spirit. So tell me, is it ONLY your “teacher” that is correct in his interpretation? How can it not be that he is not possibly the imposter? You obviously believe that your teacher is the ONLY saint able to properly interpret scripture. Your relationship with God is manufactured by the teaching of those that YOU believe are correct since you have claimed that YOU have no understanding of the bible on your own without the teachers that teach YOU! You claim that YOU are not tossed to and fro but that is only because YOU have decided which teachers to follow! Just a little “double minded” don’t ya think? Or are YOU not familiar with the term double minded, as used in scripture, because man has not yet taught you what it means? So by your choice, you decide which teachers are right or wrong without the leading of the Holy Spirit!!! TALK ABOUT WHY THERE ARE “40,000” man made churches”!!!! LOL!

          • So illogical; “my Holy Spirit tells me this OH NO-you are wrong cause my Holy Spirit tells me just the opposite, on and on until we haved 40,000 man made chruches all thinking Jesus being God could preach “Opposites” when even over 2000 years ago the father of logic, Aristotle, proved “two opposites CANNOT be true at the same time.” Return to school and take aa course in logic, and this is why none of the Apostles ever said, “Interpret scripture on your own,:” in fact St Paul told Timothy only to ….”listen to the Church.” [not scripture] Jesus founded only ONE Church and later said, “that ALL may be One.” I never decide who is right or who is wrong–only the Church may decide that which has been promised FULL Authority (not man) “WHATSOEVER YOU BIND ON EARTH I WILL BIND IN HEAVEN; WHATSOEVER YOU LOOSE UPON EARTH I WILL LOOSED IN HEAVEN.” No greater Authority exists from Our God.
            You would pick up a black bucket and say this is a white bucket and be satisfied.

          • YOU are the one that is illogical. How do you know that “the church” that you listen to is teaching God’s word properly? The bible is clear that there will be many false teachers. 2 Peter 2:1.

            OHHH, because YOU have been taught to believe “the church”. And YOU made the choice to do so, not knowing whether your church is a Jim Jones church or not, because according to you, you have no ability to understand the teachings in the bible without some other man’s interpretation! AGAIN I TELL YOU, GET YOURSELF A STRONG’S CONCORDANCE. The Greek word that we render as “church”, means “the ASSEMBLY”. The word we render as “church” refers to the ENTIRE BODY OF CHRIST! The bible mentions NO single denomination, nor references any one “church”. IN FACT the bible mentions ONLY the 7 original churches founded by the apostles. So which one of these 7 are YOU referring to?

            YOU are illogical. YOU trust man more than you trust God! Have you ever opened a bible and asked God to help you understand even the simplicity’s within it? WHY NOT? Because YOU have no relationship with God that enables you to do so. YOU have yet to tell me what book, chapter and verse ….”listen only to the Church” is in. How do YOU know that it is even in the bible? Do YOU know how to read anything in context? Or do you just pick out verses like h m rowland does and spew them from your mouth? YOUR RIGHT! There are MANY false teachers! And YOURS could be one! There has been from the beginning, and always will be! God warned us of such and commanded us to “be prepared to give an answer”. 1 Peter 3:5, 1 Timothy 1:3 and 6:3

            YOU mock God’s ability to teach you because you have no relationship with Him in order to trust Him. The Holy Spirit is a teacher TO US ALL, that TRULY KNOW HIM.

            John 16:13 As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and
            you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches
            you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has
            taught you, you abide in Him.

            1 John 2:20 But you have
            an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. (BUT, even though we have the ability to KNOW the truth, we do not always like it, therefore we pervert it to suit our needs. IT IS NOT your concern to FOCUS on the false teachings of others. ONLY on what God lays on your heart.)

            Ephesians 6:17 Take the helmet of salvation
            and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. (YOU are commanded to learn God’s word without the help of others.)

            John 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy
            Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and
            will remind you of everything I have said to you. (Of everything I have said TO YOU.)

            1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and
            you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches
            you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has
            taught you, you abide in Him.

            IF you are a saved person in Jesus Christ, then YOU have the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

            (1 Corinthians 2:10-12
            NKJV) But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit.
            For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things
            of God. {11} For what man knows the things of a man
            except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no
            one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
            {12} Now we have received, not the spirit of the world,
            but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the
            things that have been freely given to us by God. “These
            verses show us that the Holy Spirit takes the things of
            God and reveals them to Christians so they can understand
            what a wonderful salvation they have. The anointing helps
            us to see what we have received in Jesus.

            Are YOU guilty of grieving the Holy Spirit? BEWARE.

            Ephesians 4:30- And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

            (Ephesians 1:17-20 NIV) I
            keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the
            glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and
            revelation, so that you may know him better.

          • FAIR QUESTION:
            As Jesus is ONE so is His Church ONE he does not need 40,000+ man-made churches to tell him what He preached (He is God you know), e.g., (gay marriage is okay as my Holy Spirit tells me that; oh no–My Holy Spirit tells me Gay marriage is not okay, yatta, yatta)– AND He (Jesus) guaranteed His One Holy (has the true Eucharist) Catholic (found everywhere and attested to by all the early Christians in the Apostle’s and Nicene Creed’s), and Apostolic (has to be from Jesus time–[NOT from 1517] “Thou are’t Peter [Kephas (Rock)] and upon this Rock I will build MY CHURCH”…AND Jesus absolute guarantee, “Whatsoever YOU shall BIND on earth I SHALL BIND in Heaven; whatsoever YOU shall LOOSE upon earth, I shall LOOSE in Heaven.” (FULL Authority) AND I shall be with YOU until the End of the Ages (not here yet) [a promise till ALWAYS]
            Thank you Jesus, for YOUR ONE CHURCH and I note YOU still keep sending YOUR CHURCH Miracles (like 250 incorrupt bodies of Saints [protestants – 0 -]
            AND SEE ALSO “Myrna Nazzour” ON UTUBE…

          • No we follow St Paul who said to Timothy “….listen to the Church..(not scripture- only the Church may interpret Scripture correctly) The Church is the only Body to have the full authority of BINDING and LOOSING FROM JESUS ALONE.As Aristotle , the father of all Logic) taught centuries ago “Opposites cannot be true at the same time.” And why your “I’ll take my marbles and go home” (a new protestant church is founded every 8 days) way of misinterpreting the Bible has resulted in over 40,000 man-made churches yes, you follow Luther not Jesus Christ.

          • “Clear as a bell?’ (scripture) Yes, I’m sure Jesus held up “crackers and grape juice” at the Last Supper or at his first miracle at Cana at the request of His Mom He turned water into “grape juice?” Return to school, and get an education..

          • Read my words again. EVERY verse I gave you with the address, was easy to understand. God gave you a brain, USE IT. Understanding from the Holy Spirit simply means He takes advantage of YOUR desire to know truth. YES, there are liars, false prophets, those that claim guidance from the Holy Spirit, but have evil intent, and are clearly not being led by the Spirit. EVERY verse I gave you, I gave the address, and they were easy to understand by anyone seeking the truth. GOD KNOWS who is seeking truth and who is not! At LEAST give Him that. YOU just continue to repeat your same old rhetoric, not even knowing what you are meaning, or where it is at in the bible!

            AGAIN get yourself a concordance and an interlinear bible. FACT: When Jesus said to Peter, “Upon this rock I will build my church” Jesus was referring to HIMSELF as the “rock”, NOT Peter. The name Peter (in the Greek, “petros”, basically means a piece of rock. When Jesus used the word “rock” when he said “Upon this “rock”…” (in the Greek, “petra”) the word rock means a complete rock, or even boulder”. NOW, YOU figure it out for yourself. It does not take much brains to see that Jesus was saying “Upon THIS (HIMSELF) rock, I will build my church”. Jesus was pointing to HIMSELF, NOT Peter. WHY DO YOU think almighty God would need a man to build His church upon???? GOD created the heavens and the earth. And He did not use man to do it!

            1 Corinthians 13:7 “So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.

            John 5:44 (Jesus speaking)
            How can you believe if you accept praise from one another, yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God ?

            If YOUR interpretation of, “whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven”, were as you believe, then why has not all evil on earth been overcome? WHY is there still sickness on this earth????

            I will ask you these final few questions, and I EXPECT YOU to show me FROM the bible, the answer to my question. NOT just rhetoric from another man.

            In John 14:6 Jesus himself said;

            “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

            THAT CAN BE NO CLEARER than it is said.

            Now, tell me WHERE in the bible it says that we can, or need to pray thru the Saints, the Apostles, or Jesus mother Mary??? WHERE does it say we can reach Jesus thru them???? DO NOT give me anymore of your runaround. YOU are accountable to God for what you tell others. BEWARE.

          • Myopic. You have no authority to “interpret” scripture; where are you listed as “the authority” for scripture in the bible; heretics have been with us since Simon Magus whom Peter, the First Bishop of Rome put the boots to at Rome. St Paul tells Timothy “to listen to the Church.” (not scripture) all of these false interpretations have led to over 40,000 man-made churches with a new one born every seven days–and Aristotle the Founder of Logic states “opposites cannot be true at the same time.” e.g. gay marriage is approved by God (Episcopal’s) vs gay marriage is not approved by God (some Evangelicals) Only CLEAR thing you have is mud.

            On Peter as ROCK:

            As Greek scholars—even non-Catholic ones—admit, the words petros and petra were synonyms in first century Greek. They meant “small stone” and “large rock” in some ancient Greek poetry, centuries before the time of Christ, but that distinction had disappeared from the language by the time Matthew’s Gospel was rendered in Greek. The difference in meaning can only be found in Attic Greek, but the New Testament was written in Koine Greek—an entirely different dialect. In Koine Greek, both petros and petra simply meant “rock.” If Jesus had wanted to call Simon a small stone, the Greek lithos would have been used. This shows a faulty knowledge of Greek. (For an Evangelical Protestant Greek scholar’s admission of this, see D. A. Carson, The Expositor’s Bible Commentary [Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1984], Frank E. Gaebelein, ed., 8:368).

            “You Catholics,” the missionary continued, “because you don’t know Greek, imagine that Jesus was equating Simon and the rock. Actually, of course, it was just the opposite. He was contrasting them. On the one side, the rock on which the Church would be built, Jesus himself; on the other, this mere pebble. Jesus was really saying that he himself would be the foundation, and he was emphasizing that Simon wasn’t remotely qualified to be it.”

            “Case closed,” he thought.

            It was the missionary’s turn to pause and smile broadly. He had followed the training he had been given. He had been told that a rare Catholic might have heard of Matthew 16:18 and might argue that it proved the establishment of the papacy. He knew what he was supposed to say to prove otherwise, and he had said it.

            “Well,” I replied, beginning to use that nugget of information I had come across, “I agree with you that we must get behind the English to the Greek.” He smiled some more and nodded. “But I’m sure you’ll agree with me that we must get behind the Greek to the Aramaic.”

            “The what?” he asked.

            “The Aramaic,” I said. “As you know, Aramaic was the language Jesus and the apostles and all the Jews in Palestine spoke. It was the common language of the place.”

            “I thought Greek was.”

            “No,” I answered. “Many, if not most of them, knew Greek, of course, because Greek was the lingua franca of the Mediterranean world. It was the language of culture and commerce; and most of the books of the New Testament were written in it, because they were written not just for Christians in Palestine but also for Christians in places such as Rome, Alexandria, and Antioch, places where Aramaic wasn’t the spoken language.

            “I say most of the New Testament was written in Greek, but not all. Many hold that Matthew was written in Aramaic—we know this from records kept by Eusebius of Caesarea—but it was translated into Greek early on, perhaps by Matthew himself. In any case the Aramaic original is lost (as are all the originals of the New Testament books), so all we have today is the Greek.”

            I stopped for a moment and looked at the missionary. He seemed a bit uncomfortable, perhaps doubting that I was a Catholic because I seemed to know what I was talking about. I continued.

            Aramaic in the New Testament

            “We know that Jesus spoke Aramaic because some of his words are preserved for us in the Gospels. Look at Matthew 27:46, where he says from the cross, ‘Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?’ That isn’t Greek; it’s Aramaic, and it means, ‘My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?’

            “What’s more,” I said, “in Paul’s epistles—four times in Galatians and four times in 1 Corinthians—we have the Aramaic form of Simon’s new name preserved for us. In our English Bibles it comes out as Cephas. That isn’t Greek. That’s a transliteration of the Aramaic word Kepha (rendered as Kephas in its Hellenistic form).

            “And what does Kepha mean? It means a rock, the same as petra. (It doesn’t mean a little stone or a pebble. What Jesus said to Simon in Matthew 16:18 was this: ‘You are Kepha, and on thiskepha I will build my Church.’

            “When you understand what the Aramaic says, you see that Jesus was equating Simon and the rock; he wasn’t contrasting them. We see this vividly in some modern English translations, which render the verse this way: ‘You are Rock, and upon this rock I will build my church.’ In French one word, pierre, has always been used both for Simon’s new name and for the rock.”

            For a few moments the missionary seemed stumped. It was obvious he had never heard such a rejoinder. His brow was knit in thought as he tried to come up with a counter. Then it occurred to him.

            “Wait a second,” he said. “If kepha means the same as petra, why don’t we read in the Greek, ‘You are Petra, and on this petra I will build my Church’? Why, for Simon’s new name, does Matthew use a Greek word, Petros, which means something quite different from petra?”

            “Because he had no choice,” I said. “Greek and Aramaic have different grammatical structures. In Aramaic you can use kepha in both places in Matthew 16:18. In Greek you encounter a problem arising from the fact that nouns take differing gender endings.

            “You have masculine, feminine, and neuter nouns. The Greek word petra is feminine. You can use it in the second half of Matthew 16:18 without any trouble. But you can’t use it as Simon’s new name, because you can’t give a man a feminine name—at least back then you couldn’t. You have to change the ending of the noun to make it masculine. When you do that, you get Petros, which was an already-existing word meaning rock.

            “I admit that’s an imperfect rendering of the Aramaic; you lose part of the play on words. In English, where we have ‘Peter’ and ‘rock,’ you lose all of it. But that’s the best you can do in Greek.”

            Beyond the grammatical evidence, the structure of the narrative does not allow for a downplaying of Peter’s role in the Church. Look at the way Matthew 16:15-19 is structured. After Peter gives a confession about the identity of Jesus, the Lord does the same in return for Peter. Jesus does not say, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are an insignificant pebble and on this rock I will build my Church. . . . I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven.” Jesus is giving Peter a three-fold blessing, including the gift of the keys to the kingdom, not undermining his authority. To say that Jesus is downplaying Peter flies in the face of the context. Jesus is installing Peter as a form of chief steward or prime minister under the King of Kings by giving him the keys to the kingdom. As can be seen in Isaiah 22:22, kings in the Old Testament appointed a chief steward to serve under them in a position of great authority to rule over the inhabitants of the kingdom. Jesus quotes almost verbatum from this passage in Isaiah, and so it is clear what he has in mind. He is raising Peter up as a father figure to the household of faith (Is. 22:21), to lead them and guide the flock (John 21:15-17). This authority of the prime minister under the king was passed on from one man to another down through the ages by the giving of tthe keys, which were worn on the shoulder as a sign of authority. Likewise, the authority of Peter has been passed down for 2000 years by means of the papacy.

          • WOW! The need you have to go OUTSIDE the scripture to support a perverted view of what it says is very sad. I gave you verse, after verse, after verse, that supported itself and was self explanatory by mere brainpower. You give me a few verses that you admit you don’t understand on your own without the help of “the church”, and you believe what another man says the interpretation is. YOU call God a liar, and admit that YOU have no personal relationship with Jesus Christ because He is unable to help you personally understand scripture through His Holy Scripture. HOW do you KNOW, since YOU are unable to understand the meaning without another man teaching you, that the “teachers” within “the church” you put your faith in, are not in error of their interpretation? How do you KNOW that THEY are not intentionally perverting the meaning? YOU put your faith in man OVER God Himself! You claim it is impossible for me, a mere man, to understand scripture without “the church”. But scripture says it is not impossible for God to show me the meaning.

            (Matthew 19:26) But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

            (Mark 10:27) And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is
            impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.

            (Luke 1:37) For with God nothing shall be impossible.

            (Luke 18:27) And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

            YOUR mind has been so twisted into believing that “the church” is YOUR answer, that you deny God the ability to work in your life.

            I ask you again, WHERE IN THE BIBLE does it say that we pray to the saints, the Apostles, or the virgin Mary for forgiveness of sin, or for anything else? I gave you verses that CLEARLY showed that act is an abomination before God. SHOW ME THE VERSES. Here is another one for you to chew on, that is if you can use a little common sense, and not run to “the church”, for THEIR answer.

            “The Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.” (John 14:26)

            “When He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.” (John 16:13)

            If the Holy Spirit ONLY taught the Apostles, then how did YOUR “teachers” learn?

            The Holy Spirit was given to live inside those who believe in Jesus, in order to produce God’s character in the life of a believer. In a way that we cannot do on our own, the Holy Spirit will build into our lives love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control (Gal. 5:22-23). Rather than trying to be loving, patient, kind, God asks us to rely on Him to produce these qualities in our lives. Thus Christians are told to walk in the Spirit (Gal. 5:25) and be filled with the Spirit (Eph. 5:18). And the Holy Spirit empowers Christians to perform ministerial duties that promote spiritual growth among Christians (Rom. 12; 1Cor. 12; Eph. 4).

            If YOU cannot clearly see what is shown above, then YOU are a lost soul. Preparing yourself to devoured by the evil one because YOU choose to believe man over God Almighty.

            Rev 22:18-19
            I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

          • Moreover, I want to know where it says in the bible that I, nor you, are capable of understanding the bible. Even IF the bible said, “Go to the church and receive understanding” that IS NOT the same as saying I am incapable of understanding the bible.

            I again ask you, “WHY” was the curtain to the temple torn in two by God when Christ died? To provide ALL mankind with direct access to God. THAT is the answer. Do YOU have another, that makes sense and is harmony with the rest of scripture?

            I ask YOU again, WHY would almighty God give man the ability to forgive sin? EXCEPT for the sin committed against himself by another so that fellowship can be restored. The Pharisees themselves acknowledged that ONLY God can forgive sin, Mark 2:7, and Christ acknowledged that by not correcting them, and then claimed that He HIMSELF, being God, also could forgive sin on this earth. SHOW ME WHERE in the bible Christ, God, needs man to be His intercessor??? THAT is why “the Father” sent the Holy Spirit. HE AND ONLY HE is mans intercessor with God. Romans 8:26-27

            WHY does God NEED man for anything? God makes rocks cry out and donkeys talk. ALL THINGS are possible with Him, WITHOUT MAN. YET, YOU insist on NEEDING mere man when God has given YOU everything YOU need that ties YOU directly to Him.

            I HAVE YET to know or even meet a devout Catholic that understands what it means to have a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ. The peace that comes about thru HIM, NOT some other fallible and errant man. I know no Catholics that are secure in Christ. They are restless and unsure individuals. WHY? Because they are ERRANTLY taught to rely on man, and not on God Himself. How can anyone feel secure in their faith when they are taught to rely on other imperfect creatures?

            Ask yourself this. “Am I secure in my relationship with Jesus Christ? Do I hold onto His promise that “He will never leave me nor forsake me.” Hebrews 13:5

            Or are you just existing on what others tell you how you are supposed to be, or feel? Not much peace in that, is there?

          • Only Jesus One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church interprets the Bible correctly under His promise “Whatsoever you BIND on earth I SHALL BIND in Heaven; whatsoever you LOOSE upon earth I SHALL LOOSE in Heaven.” (No greater authority than this given to Peter and he Apostles)
            after He founded His Church on Kephas (Peter-after changing his name from Simon) meaning the Rock
            You have made yourself your own god…Why would God do this? Why would God do that, yatta, yatta which makes Him laugh at the arrogant “man.”
            He answered this long ago–

            …7Let the wicked forsake his way And the unrighteous man his thoughts; And let him return to the LORD, And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon. 8″For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. 9″For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.…”

            isaiah says it all

          • “His promise “Whatsoever you BIND on earth I SHALL BIND in Heaven; whatsoever you LOOSE upon earth I SHALL LOOSE in Heaven.”

            And WHERE in the bible does it say that this ONLY applies to the Catholic church?

          • Jesus founded only ONE Church (“Thou art Kephas (Peter-Rock) and upon this Rock (Kephas) I will build my Church) which now has as its head –#266th, Bishop of Rome (Francis) [who incidentally had 6,000,000 people at his church service in the Phillippines) in a direct line from Peter– the first Bishop of Rome. Jesus is ONE and does not need any help from stupid man, who has made over 40,000 man-made churches, all started too late– 1517 years after Jesus’ time. Where in the bible does it say any other but the Catholic Church?(known at the time as “The People of the Way” until 107 AD when Ignatius 3rd Bishop of Antioch when on his way to be eaten by lions he changed the name to the “Catholic” Church and it has been that name ever since.
            You need to start studying history; it is all available from the first NT called the Didache (I have one in my basement), to Eusebius “The History of the Christian Church” written in the 200s-300s, as well as the other works of the Church Fathers.
            Study also Logic (Aristotle) who points out that “contradictions cannot be true at the same time,” (e.g, gay marriage was approved by Jesus (Episcopal church vs gay marriage is forbidden by Jesus (Anglican church)
            God Bless

          • “You have made yourself your own god…Why would God do this? Why would
            God do that, yatta, yatta which makes Him laugh at the arrogant “man.””

            YOU demean the righteousness and power of God by telling me that He needs man to do his bidding for Him. YOU demean God by praying to sinful man who cannot hear you, while expecting them to be your intercessor when God CLEARLY sent His Holy Spirit to be the intercessor for all mankind.

            YOU have yet to show me anywhere in the bible that answers my questions asked many times over. WHY? Because YOUR faith is based on assumption with the foundation being man himself.

            “God’s ways” are certainly not the ways of man. So THEN, WHY must YOU use man to tell you what the bible means? ANSWER THAT! YOU have yet to show me FROM THE BIBLE where it says that I have no capability of understanding the bible without another man explaining it to me. YOU have always gone outside the bible to make your feeble attempts.

            I have given you verse after verse after verse that is simple enough in and of itself to understand, and all you do is side track those verses with your same old rhetoric. When YOU develop YOUR OWN relationship with Jesus Christ, then come back and talk to me with something other than rhetoric manufactured by mans own intent.

          • Still telling God what He can and cannot do; God can do ALL things despite your objection (render to the Church to forgive sins; give HIS Church HIS Body and Blood–thank you Jesus-we appreciate the greatest of your miracles despite the fact that protestants don’t)
            First advice return to school and learn to read
            “Why can’t I interpret the Bible”– where in the bible yatta yatta–
            Your name is not listed in the bible for anything, therefore following you heresy of Sola Scriptura (proves you follow Luther not Jesus):
            [.’if its not in the bible it don’t exist]
            ONLY THE ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH may interpret the Bible; and it does and has since Jesus time:

            REGARDING

            THE PILLAR AND BULWARK OF THE TRUTH

            In the Holy Bible, we read, “If I (St. Paul) am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth. Without any doubt, the mystery of our religion is great…” [1 Tim. 15-16]

            In the aforementioned passage, two things stand out. Paul refers to:

            i. The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth, and

            ii. Our religion.

            Most Protestants believe that the Bible is the pillar and foundation of the truth. They also believe that no knowledge outside of the Bible is necessary for salvation. [this is the heresy that brings so many former prot ministers into the Catholic Church when they find out that Sola is NOT in the bible] e.g. Scot Hahn

            Such a belief, “Sola Scriptura,” (meaning only need the Bible) cannot be found anywhere in the Bible. Not only that, they fall short of recognizing that Saint Paul was referring to “our religion, the Catholic Church and its Rites, the only One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church that was instituted on earth by Jesus Christ.

            The Protestant argument that the Bible is the pillar and bulwark of the truth does not make any sense for two reasons:

            i) It was not until the fourth century that the Catholic Church completed its selection of the “canon of Scripture.” The Bible could not be the pillar and bulwark of the truth prior to the fourth century because the Holy Bible did not exist. (that is why it is the CHURCH!)

            ii) It was not until the 1600’s that the first Bible was printed. Prior to those days, very few Bibles were available, such being hand written and owned by the Church and/or the rich, these being kept under lock and key. So the average person had no access to the Bible. He could not use the Bible as a reference to support that it was the pillar and bulwark of the truth. In fact, the people turned to the Church to learn the tradition, the doctrines, the teachings of the Catholic Church.

            The truth is that it is only during the last four hundred years that the Protestants have made claim that the Bible is the pillar and bulwark of the truth. Prior to that, they could not make such a claim because they had no access to the Bible.

            Just one of your fallacies outlined above;

          • “ONLY THE ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH may interpret the Bible; and it does and has since Jesus time.”

            WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT IN THE BIBLE? IT DOES NOT! Therefore, the Catholic church is a man made church just like every other church. It is man within the Catholic church that claims it is the “only church”. NOT THE BIBLE

            What we render as “church”.
            Strong’s concordance #1577
            e)kklhsi/a
            ekklesia (ek-klay-see’-ah); from a compound of NT:1537 and a derivative of NT:2564; a calling out, i.e. (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):

            “A calling out” In other words, the body of Christ.

            If Peter were the rock that Christ built His church on then why didn’t Christ just simply use the same Aramaic word the second time as He did for Peter? BECAUSE HE CLEARLY DEFINED WHAT HE MEANT BY USING THE WORD “PETRA” in reference to Him building His church upon Himself, The BIG rock! Or why did He simply not say “Peter, I will build my church upon you”.

            No one is telling God what He can or cannot do. It is the arrogance of the Catholic leaders that promote God’s necessity of man when God is sovereign and self sufficient. You call your priests “father” in a spiritual sense when Christ himself said;

            Mathew 23:8-10

            “But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.…”

            YOU blaspheme God in your arrogance.

            You pray to Mary and the Apostles when the bible is clear, for which I gave you verses, that the Holy Spirit himself is the intercessor and the bridge between man and Christ with Christ being the bridge between man and the Father. WHY DO YOU WORSHIP MAN by praying to him when the archangel himself refused man for bowing before him?

            Whether the “Catholic” church was the original church or not is a moot point. It has strayed from God’s word by making itself “the church” and teaching man to depend on it rather than God Himself. “YOU need to go back to school” and research how much corruption (both political and spiritual) crept into the Catholic church throughout history and why so many splits occurred. HOW DO YOU know YOU are within the sect that kept God’s word as it was meant, and even written?

            YES, there is only one “church” which is the body of believers in Christ, be they Baptist, Brethren, Catholic, Church of God, Church of Christ, Episcopalian, or whatever other denomination. THE CHURCH IS THE ASSEMBLY OF BELIEVERS AND GOD KNOWS EACH AND EVERY PERSON WHO IS A MEMBER, and He also knows those that are FALSE TEACHERS.

            The body of believers, whom are “the church”, the “Christian community”, God’s children, are the “bulwark” of the truth. In keeping with the command in 1 Peter 3:15 THEY stand in defense of God’s Word, being Jesus Christ. Read John 1:1; “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

            You NEVER answered my questions.

            WHERE in the bible does it teach us to pray to the virgin Mary, or the Apostles?

            WHERE in the bible does it say no one but Catholic church leaders are the only ones capable of understanding the bible? I gave you many verses that CLEARLY contradicts that belief. When you learn to use the brain God gave you, your eyes will be opened to the truth.

            I again ask you, “WHY” was the curtain to the temple torn in two by God when Christ died?

            Everything that you have said to me is interjection without support of scripture. You take one verse and build a temple around it and ignore surrounding context.

            I ask you again regarding “Whatever you bind on earth……” If this means what you say, WHY are there still sick people on this earth? When is the last time any of your priests or even the pope laid his hands on a sick person and that person was instantly healed? It should be taking place everyday several times a day if your interpretation is correct.

          • otoman

            ANSWER: “ONLY THE ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH may interpret the Bible; and it does and has since Jesus time.”

            POSIT: WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT IN THE BIBLE? IT DOES NOT!

            You’re still a follower of Luther with his heresy of “Sola Scriptura” which is NOT found in the Bible.

            Many things are not in the bible which are true—the word bible is not found in the bible which would make the bible not true is where your ridiculous reasoning takes you St Joseph’s death is not recorded in the bible so by your reasoning St Joseph is still alive today – how goofy your are. The Trinity is not in the bible yet it exists. The Incarnation is not in the bible yet it exists. The Didache is not in the bible yet it exists.

            However, Jesus gave FULL authority to only One Church—His—when He gave it to the Apostles “Whatsoever you BIND on earth I SHALL BIND in heaven; whatsoever you LOOSE upon earth I SHALL LOOSE IN Heaven.”

            Your name is not in the bible therefore you have NO authority to interpret anything and your interpretations show it.

            NEXT

            ANSWER: And now you call Jesus a LIAR

            To Peter and the Apostles; (To Peter (Kephas) “Thou art Peter (Rock) and upon this Kephas (Rock) I will BUILD MY CHURCH.” Known at that time as “The People of the Way.”

            In 107 AD, Ignatius of Antioch (3rd Bishop of Antioch [Peter was the first Bishop of Antioch until he took the SEE to Rome. Iggy renamed Jesus Church to the “Catholic” Church, a name it has been called ever since. You insult Jesus by saying His is a man=made Church so you do not know that Jesus is GOD. (Letters of Ignatius still extant)

            There was NO NT at the time of Jesus until His Church put it together at the Council of Nicea (325 AD, HiPPO and Chalcedon (5th century) and it was not finished until April 8, 1592

            Protestant churches formed 1517 years later are TOO LATE BY OVER 1500 years to have anything to do with Jesus One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church (the 4 MARKS OF JESUS TRUE CHURCH.

            POSIT: If Peter were the rock that Christ built His church on then why did Christ just simply use the same Aramaic word the second time as He did for Peter?

            ANSWER: BEcause you cannot read—“Peter thou art Rock and upon THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH….How CLEAR do you want it? Peter means ROCK in BOTH Aramaic and Koine Greek (THIS AFTER DELIBERATELY CHANGING PETER’S NAME TO “ROCK” FROM SIMON.

            POSIT: BECAUSE HE CLEARLY DEFINED WHAT HE MEANT BY U SING THE WORD “PETRA” in reference to Him building His church upon Himself, The BIG rock! Or why did He simply not say “Peter, I will build my church upon you”. NOW YOU GOT IT—Still LIMITING AND QUESTIONING GOD—HOW ARROGANT!

            POSIT: No one is telling God what He can or cannot do. It is the arrogance of the Catholic leaders that promote God’s necessity of man when God is sovereign and self sufficient. You call your priests “father” in a spiritual sense when Christ himself said;

            Mathew 23:8-10

            “But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.…”

            ANSWER: Even Paul calls himself “father” and all Protestants I have seen (FRIENDS) call their dad’s father and why you are being disingenuous.

            POSIT: YOU blaspheme God in your arrogance.

            ANSWER: AT LEAST I FOLLOW GOD. NOT LUTHER.

            POSIT: You pray to Mary and the Apostles when the bible is clear

            ANSWER: Your own faulty interpretations and those of 40,000 man-made churches (because they all differ with one another over “interpretations” which we follow St Paul…the “CHURCH” alone is the bulwark of truth, not every tom dick and harry) show that the Bible is NOT CLEAR) That is why so many heresies patrol the world just as Jesus AND Peter Prophesized.

            ANSWER; I’ll take Mary any day ever since she called me into St Aloysius Church when I was seven and after a brief conversation she asked me if I wanted her to me my mother, too. Of course I accepted—how radiant she was, and she has pulled me out of many a tough scrape.

            In 2011 she sent me a miracle photo from St Patrick’s Church in Columbus, Ohio. No you keep your heresies and I’ll keep my MOM.

            ANSWER: You are also MYOPIC missing the millions of people who visit the places of Mary’s appearances at Lourdes, Fatima, and Guadalupe and now in Egypt (where in 1969 100,000 people witnessed it. This is because Jesus spoke of you often “Oh thou of LITTLE Fatih.” He sends you signs and you IGNORE him while adopting Luther.GOD SENDS YOU SIGNS BUT YOU IGNORE THEM.

            ANSWER: No one worships man. Get a Catechism and read “Worship belongs to GOD ALONE.” This is why you need to get better educated; truth is out there but you don’t follow Jesus: “Know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.” AND “They keep me on their lips but not in their hearts.” You follow Luther, a defrocked lowly priest over Jesus the Son of God. Further proof when you ignore Jesus’:

            “Whether the “Catholic” church was the original church or not is a moot point. It has strayed from God’s word…’

            ANSWER: Ignoring a Church founded by God (Jesus) is just more proof that you choose a man-made Church over a God-made church which is an act of disobedience to God.

            A Church founded by God CANNOT stray, for He said to Peter “I’ll wil be with you until the END OF DAYS.” (unless I missed it it It is NOT here yet. [we are only at 266 Bishops of Rome in a direct line from Peter]

            ANSWER: Jesus also knew He was to die soon so under your reasoning He was making a church which would last only until He was alive – stupid He is not as He is GOD.

            POSIT: HOW DO YOU know YOU are within the sect that kept God’s word as it was meant, and even written?

            ANSWER: Again, Jesus is God and HE DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES. Being God He is NOT a Denomination—as Jesus is ONE His CHURCH is ONE—he does not need stupid man which thus far has created over 40,000 false churches as opposed to His “One” [Truth is One; Jesus is One] “Holy” [it alone has the Eucharist – His Body Blood Soul and Divinity] “Catholic” [Universal-found everywhere 1.2 million members]

            “Apostolic” [direct from Jesus’ time founded on Peter] (these are the 4 Marks of the True Church of Jesus

            Law of Logic – “Opposites can not be true at the same time.” (Aristotle) Episcopal false church; “Jesus okay Gay Marriage vs Anglican “Jesus said Gay Marriage is not okay.

            POSIT: He (GoD) also knows those that are FALSE TEACHERS.

            ANSWER: Of course you are one of thousands

            TWISITN SCRIPTURE TO URGE YOU FALSE READING AGAIN: God’s children, are the “bulwark” of the truth.

            ANSWER; You missed the first part by forcing just another “misinterpretation” leading to just another heresy…of course you have to change what is in scripture as you do everything else “Paul said THE CHURCH is the bulwark of TRUTH –not “CHILDREN” As part of that Church under Peter— Paul is directing Timothy where to find Truth.

            POSIT: You NEVER answered my questions.

            ANSWER: I answer ALL your questions but as with all heretics they rather listen to “prejudiced” men rather than the Son of God; Even Satan quotes Scripture better than you do and He KNOWS WHICH CHURCH IS JESUs – As in the past year Satan steals the Eucharist ONLY from Jesus Catholic Church so he can “denigrate it (once at Harvard and once at Oklahoma city where He put on Black Masses (Devil Masses)

            Show me ONE INSTANCE where He has stolen “crackers and grape juice” from any of the 40,000+ man-made churches.

            ANSWER: Below is living proof you FOLLOW LUTHER NOT JESUS (heresy of Sola Scriptura which is NOT in the Bible, thus

            POSITS: WHERE in the bible does it teach us to pray to the virgin Mary, or the Apostles?

            WHERE in the bible does it say no one but Catholic church leaders are the only ones capable of understanding the bible? I gave you many verses that CLEARLY contradicts that belief. When you learn to use the brain God gave you, your eyes will be opened to the truth.

            Everything that you have said to me is interjection without support of scripture. You take one verse and build a temple around it and ignore surrounding context.

            ANSWERS: There was no NT for centuries; The early Christians were running and hiding for their lives not sitting at a typewriter sipping a beer while 1 in a hundred thousand might have has a copy of a letter Paul “might” have written-true from false were sorted out by the Catholic Bishops at Nicea, Hippo, and Carthage Councils. Many were rejected like the Shepard of Hermas. It was the Monks in the monasteries before that who were dealing with hand writing notes on scriptures and rewriting.

            ANSWER: Many things are not in the bible which are true—the word bible is not found in the bible which would make the bible not true is where your ridiculous reasoning takes you St Joseph’s death is not recorded in the bible so by your reasoning St Joseph is still alive today – how goofy your are. The Trinity is not in the bible yet it exists. The Incarnation is not in the bible yet it exists. The Didache is not in the bible yet it exists. (I have two copies and were written before the NT 50AD) WHERE IN THE BIBLE does it say that the Apostles went to the BATHROOM-under your heresy Sola Scriptura it would mean THEY NEVER DID. How stupid!

            ANSWER: Saying that Joseph never died is one of the dumbest remarks just because it is NOT in the bible.

            POSIT: I ask you again regarding “Whatever you bind on earth……” If this means what you say, WHY are there still sick people on this earth?

            ANSWER: Only someone with a weak belief in God would keep questioning HIS WILL as you do. God can bring great things out of evil—The Church grew the fastest from its evil of 11,700,000 martyrs during the Roman times; had a mini-mind like you been in charge we would have 100 millions churches not 40,000+ all preaching things Jesus never taught.

            POSIT:: When is the last time any of your priests or even the pope laid his hands on a sick person and that person was instantly healed? It should be taking place everyday several times a day if your interpretation is correct.

            ANSWER: It happens on a daily basis at Lourdes, Fatima and Guadalupe and other miraculous sites which you would not recognize anyway because Jesus spotted you way back “Oh, thou of Little Faith.”

            We also have 250 bodies of saints which have never CORRUPTED—PADRE PIO ONE OF THE LATEST—DIED IN 1968. Protestant churches have ZERO in miracles like this.

          • You truly are a misguided soul. You say you do not worship man but you pray to him. Wake up and KNOW that is worship. There are no instances in the bible where a man is prayed to. You us idiotic comparisons that a 4 year old would use to try and win an argument. Compare apples and oranges why don’t you. The bible is God’s written word, written by man as lead by the Spirit. Your right, there are many things not in the bible that are true but when it comes to spiritual things you better re-read the very last verse and BEWARE.

            When you understand the true definition of “church”, that God’s church is ALL of God’s people, be whatever denomination they are, then YOU will understand why it is God’s people that are the bulwark of the church. Of course Christ is the head, the cornerstone, the foundation, and the Master bulwark.

            You say you “have 250 bodies of saints which have never CORRUPTED” You fail to recognize the fact that Satan himself is a master deceiver and uses such things to misguide people. You claim that these people were so holy in God’s eyes that He has caused such things to honor “YOUR” saints. You forget that the bible states God plays no favorites and He clearly says that when we have broken one command we have broken them all. If you are saying these “un-corrupted” men were without sin, then I hope you know that is clearly heresy.

            You circumvent every clearly written passage that contradicts your teachings. AS said, YOU need to study WHY there were so many bodies fleeing what you claim is the first and only church. It is because what you claim is the original church began to change what was taught from the beginning.

            And if all of these miracles you say are taking place in only certain areas then YOUR church is failing in “Going into ALL THE WORLD….”

            The Catholic churches new stance on “embracing” homosexual clergy is an abomination unto God. Reasons that so many factions branched from what you claim as the first and only church is still are still happening today. I ask you again. HOW do you know YOUR faction is the correct one? if such a thing did exist? You don’t and you can’t, because YOU have no way of understanding God’s word unless it is taught by another man who claims he has the proper teaching!!! LOL!

          • POSIT: You truly are a misguided soul. You say you do not worship man but you pray to him. Wake up and KNOW that is worship. There are no instances in the bible where a man is prayed to.

            ANSWER: You start out with the heresy of Sola Scriptura which proves you follow a defrocked catholic priest named Martin Luther. Once again not everything is in the Bible. Jesus died at age 33 and the Bible takes in barely 3 years of His Life. The Veil of Veronica is not in the Bible yet it still hangs in a church to this day. (Gave you many other things NOT in the Bible)

            You are also wrong in stating no man is prayed to—Jesus is FULLY “MAN” and FULLY GOD, and you sometimes even pray to him.

            People in church are praying to God AND for others in the flock, asking as a group for intercession on their needs. Common in all churches. “Wherever two or three…” yatta

            POSIT: The bible is God’s written word, written by man as lead by the Spirit. Your right, there are many things not in the bible that are true but when it comes to spiritual things you better re-read the very last verse and BEWARE.

            ANSWER: Finally you admit that your false belief in Sola Scriptura is invalid, but you continue to use that which is false (not a virtue of an honorable man) And still making things up in accord with yourself, not what the bible says. “BEWARE” scares no one when one is in the state of God’s Grace.

            POSIT: When you understand the true definition of “church”, that God’s church is ALL of God’s people, be whatever denomination they are, then YOU will understand why it is God’s people that are the bulwark of the church. Of course Christ is the head, the cornerstone, the foundation, and the Master bulwark.

            ANSWER: Again you are bold enough to call Jesus a liar when He plainly said He was founding HIS CHURCH upon Peter (“Thou art the ROCK [Kephas, Cephas] and upon THIS ROCK [Kephas, Cephas) I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH…”, and the long lineage is traceable back to Peter in History to Pope Francis—he being Number 266 in that line.

            POSIT: You say you “have 250 bodies of saints which have never CORRUPTED” You fail to recognize the fact that Satan himself is a master deceiver and uses such things to misguide people. You claim that these people were so holy in God’s eyes that He has caused such things to honor “YOUR” saints.

            ANSWER: You are now flying in the face of Scientists and Medical experts who have said “they have no earthly explanation why these bodies have not corrupted.

            ANSWER: Satan? (how deceptive of you – you bring God’s love down to the level of what you have no proof of) Playing the devil card blaming your lack of faith on Satan of all people; These men AND women ALL have led stellar lives, many of them having wrestled with the devil [like John Vianney]; so now you have put yourself with the illogical position of the devil fighting the devil. How absurd! You show disdain for Miracles which most normal people view as BLESSINGS from God. Thank you, Father for these wonderful Gifts which encourage our faithfulness.

            POSIT: You forget that the bible states God plays no favorites…

            ANSWER: Wow! — Again, twisting now your Sola Scriptura as the Bible CLEARLY shows God showering His gifts upon the picked flock—Adam, Eve, Moses, Solomon, David, Mary, Joseph, Stephen, Paul, all the Apostles, — boy you are really “Myopic” as God always shows who He favors and who he doesn’t. Even, by acts when He separated waters so the Jewish people could pass to safety while drowning their enemies. Trade in the bible with the missing 7 books you use for a good one like the Douay Rheims.

            POSIT: …saying these “un-corrupted” men were without sin, then I hope you know that is clearly heresy.

            ANSWER: I Said the men led very Holy lives, never said “without sin.” Thus, as usual I see what God says about you….Oh, Thou of little Faith” AND “You have eyes yet you do not see, ears but you do not hear.” [“most of these “Saints” spent many hours in the confessional–does that sound like they believed they are “without sin?” Jesus often met St Faustina as she came out of the confessional (see her “diary”)] Bishop Sheen said: “You can tell the holiest Churches by the LENGTH of their CONFESSIONAL LINES.”

            Protestants believe that all miracles ended with Jesus’ time. While we see them every day like the hundreds of thousands who view cures to this day at Fatima, AND Lourdes, and other Holy sites.

            POSIT: and He clearly says that when we have broken one command we have broken them all.

            ANSWER: All of our readers know that when one uses the term “clearly” as OFTEN as you do, he is really hiding his lack of knowledge. You even think that God doesn’t favor people which is NONSENSE. He favors those who are loyal to Him especially in daily prayer.

            POSIT: You circumvent every clearly written passage that contradicts your teachings. AS said, YOU need to study WHY there were so many bodies fleeing what you claim is the first and only church… YOUR church is failing in “Going into ALL THE WORLD….”

            ANSWER: Now resorting to outright fibs (I’m being kind) I would not call 1.2 BILLION Catholics fleeing. I met a Missionary at a funeral a year ago and he told me he and his group handed out 18,000,000 Rosaries (the gospel in prayer) the past two years—his province is Africa.

            If this is FLEEING, I’ll take it any day:

            With 176 million Catholics, Africa gains prominence

            The Catholic world shifts south As Catholic cardinals begin to deliberate who should succeed Pope Benedict XVI, they’ll consider candidates from the world over. A century ago, the global Catholic population was centered in Europe. Today, it has moved to the Southern Hemisphere: Latin America, Africa and Asia. In 1910, France was the country with the largest number of Catholics. Now, it is Brazil.

            POSIT: It is because what you claim is the original church began to change what was taught from the beginning…

            ANSWER: Jesus gave HIS CHURCH FULL AUTHORITY to change: “Whatsoever you BIND on earth I SHALL BIND in Heaven; whatsoever you LOOSE upon earth, I SHALL LOOSE in heaven.” Yes, like any good CEO– Jesus has full CONFIDENCE that His Church would always be obedient to HIS WILL.

            POSIT: The Catholic churches new stance on “embracing” homosexual clergy is an abomination unto God.

            ANSWER: Another “fib” (being kind again) Not at all true; no one has done more to punish this than Pope Benedict and Pope Francis. The Churches’ stance is always the same, those attracted by “same sex” attraction are welcome into the Church but the sin is in the ACTION and this is a “sin just like any other” and must be addressed in the Confessional as Jesus demands. Distorting a position is an abomination unto God. In God’s Church, marriage is still one of His Sacraments, requiring One Man and One Woman (Matter), and the (Form), the “I do” from each party pledging “for life” to love, honor and obey.

            If anything if is your flocks that are allowing homosexual marriages; recently, the Anglicans kicked out the Episcopal’s who now marry homosexuals, with other protestant denominations doing the “politically correct” thing rather ignoring Jesus.

            Washington Post: Pope Francis celebrates Mass after meeting sex-abuse victims, prisoners on his last day in U.S.

            POSIT: Reasons that so many factions branched from what you claim as the first and only church is still are still happening today. I ask you again.

            ANSWER: Again, a falsehood. Pope Francis this past year in the Philippines had 6,000,000 people attend his Sunday Mass. How many have you had—26? Maybe. In Washington, only 1,000,000 showed up because the area was too small to hold them. And only about 824,000 received Jesus Body Blood Soul and Divinity.

            POSIT: HOW do you know YOUR faction is the correct one? if such a thing did exist? You don’t and you can’t, because YOU have no way of understanding God’s word unless it is taught by another man who claims he has the proper teaching!!! LOL!

            ANSWER: Jesus did not create “a faction.” Being God, He created the ONLY ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH –the only “God-made” Church on earth versus 40,000+ man-made churches which are not obedient to Him e.g., “that ALL MAY BE ONE.” (not 40,000+ and it was the only Christian Church for 1517 years.

            POSIT: “if such a thing exist?

            ANSWER: Just show that you lack an education, afraid of keeping an OPEN mind—you are afraid of reading the early church Fathers like Eusebius (wrote; History of the Christian Church around 315AD) or (the 7 letters of Ignatius of Antioch (3rd Bishop there and ordained by St John) or like Michael Cumbie, just one of the many fine Ministers that came into the Church about 10 years ago (he did read the early Church Fathers). Michael vowed never to enter a Catholic Church and was raised a Southern Baptist, went to Presbyterian, Evangelical, and says the first time he decided to enter a Catholic Church and was so impressed with a feeling of holiness when looking upon Jesus in Tabernacle he wanted to cast himself down upon his knees and praise God. You can look him up in UTUBE but you won’t—you do not want to “Know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.

            Now, with that I will take my God (Jesus) advice who told the Apostles “if they will not listen to the Truth, shake the dust from your feet and leave that place.” Which I am doing. God Bless, and God luck in your journey to Truth. Sorry I had to keep this SHORT.
            ST PIO DIED 1968 BELOW:

          • Respectfully my friend, it is clear that you have basically no knowledge of the bible. Have you read it? Thru out our discussion I have provided you with many many bible verses that contradict most of your positions. You give me nothing except what appears to be another man’s version of his interpretation of only 2, maybe 3 verses, with those being taken out of context.

            Respectfully, do you understand the need to read the verses before and after a key verse in the bible to understand the context? Let alone the correlation of other scripture? It appears that you do not. That precept is the basic of understanding any book that we read, and every conversation we have. It is true that their are many facts outside the bible. It appears that your whole ideology and faith is based on 2 or 3 verses from the bible, in and of themselves, not considering those around, or any other part of the bible. ONLY what another man says. There is one certainty in life concerning the nature of man. ALL men are fallible because ALL men are with sin. Even your pope and priests.

            (Romans 3:23) “But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;…”

            Therefore, your pope and priests are no less prone to error than anyone else. You trust sinful man more than you trust God Himself. Or is it that YOU do not trust YOUR relationship with God?

            My friend, it is you that is the “misguided soul”. Misguided by a belief that someone else has a more favored relationship with God, than you are capable of having. We ALL gain favor with God by the same “good news”; thru Jesus Christ. God plays no favorites.

            Acts 10:34 Peter began to speak: “I now know how true it is that God does not show favoritism, but accepts men from every nation who fear Him.”

            The same Holy Spirit is given to ALL of us.

            ” 1 Corinthians 12:13 “For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.”

            I will pray that when YOU look in the mirror every morning you will see the one who is misguided. I will pray that God opens your heart to Him, and that He empties your heart of the need to idolize men and angels. I have been lead to exercise Matthew 10:14, and shake the dust from my feet. I truly wish you the best in Christ. That best being a real relationship with Him, and Him alone. In His own words “I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me.” There is no salvation thru any other. The curtain was torn in two when Christ died. We ALL have equal access, directly to God. There is no need for another. THAT is what the bible teaches!

            And YES, the Trinity is clearly shown in the bible, and thru the very nature of man himself. None of us exist without the three. Body, soul and spirit. Something that scientists just cannot explain!

            In the final words of Jesus; “It is finished”.

          • “The right to buy a wedding cake against the religious beliefs of others?” You intellectual types just pin me to the mat. Ouch. So, you come into my restaurant and I’m a Christian and I discover that you and your wife don’t sleep in twin beds, out with you and your disgusting sin!! So, Susie goes into a Baptist mission and she’s starving, freezing, homeless and gay and she is turned away with a Christian smile and a wave and a Gideon Bible? So, I see a guy and a girl walking down the street holding hands and it makes my stomach turn in disgust and they wanna ride in my cab… “Sorry, I don’t drive for straight folks”. So, A person of color comes into the diner and they have to sit in the back by the kitchen door and not at the counter, do I understand what your ignorant bigoted racist ass is saying Gov. Pence? Its against my beliefs to sell hot dogs to Colt’s fans, sorry. Did you know(a side note) that Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana is actually of Texas and was imported by the Republican Party to Indiana in 1999 for the express reason of becoming Governor and a presidential hopeful which he could not accomplish in Texas? Yes its like a big ol chess board. He sucks just like a Texan…not very well, but he does swallow like a true Tea Bagger.

      • The only deplorable behavior during the SOTU address was delivered by Oblowhole, Liar In Chief, his holy highness, El douche bag, the fuhrer himself, Barack! He was supported by his court jesters, Pelosi and Reid.

        Thank God we are in to the last months of the worst Presidency in American history. I feel sorry for black people, who waited all those years to elect the first black President, and this is what they got. PITY, PITY, PITY. What a huge waste of an opportunity.

        Ryan will not maintain his position for long. He has committed political suicide.

        • ed28 that is some very treasonous language you choose. We all are fortunate to have lived in a prosperous and visionary time with this President who is, or will be considered by historians, as one of the great or near great, top 10. I’m not sure where you have been living but my guess would be with Limbaugh or Cunningham, one of those types or with the 27% of Americans who cannot read above a 5th grade level. Interestingly enough ed28 is that 27% is the same number as there are Tea Baggers…..ed27. Anyway, if you get a chance to wander outside whatever your living arrangements are you’ll see that in the real world things are pretty damn good. America IS great!!

          • You are deplorably ignorant if you think exercising my 1st amendment rights is treasonous. Typical liberal , censoring what you hear because I don’t agree with you blindly. And if you don’t agree, you do your pathetic best to shut it down. How sad a little Oblowhard sycophant you are. Too bad your vision is deficient as we had an America that was better then it is now and I am sure that it will be better again post Oblowhole.

            P.S. I have traveled through 49 states, 14 different countries, 4 different continents. Now, America has declined these last 7 years and we are now rated as only the 4th best country on Earth. Thank you your Holly Highness, fascist supreme, Dictator of the largest banana republic with the most corrupt administration in history, Heir Oblamo!

          • I don’t think your exercising your right to speech is treasonous just the way in which you choose to use it. America Is great! I don’t know why you want to talk it down, but that’s your right and I encourage you to use it….in a constructive, positive way.
            Your still asleep at the switch if you don’t recognize that the ‘banana republic’ is a far right wing affair, it was when it took power in ’63 and still is today. You people rail against the wrong people because you believe the cover up of their actions on a daily basis, you listen to morons and evil disseminators of the truth and then mouth it back like throwing up lunch. Sorry, you need to do your research before you type. They have you looking the other direction , the wrong direction. You don’t even speak of those who actually run the country you speak of elected officials who have no bearing other than to pass the word along to the people.

          • That’s the issue for you. I can choose to use my 1st amendment rights anyway I please. Too bad if you don’t like it. I don’t talk America down. I morn for this sweet country because of the idiot haunting the oval office. I hate his policies which have weakened the U.S., allowed the U.S. to NOT be respected in the rest of the world, to have the U.S. turn her back on her long term allies, to saddle us with a deal with Iran which is a disaster just waiting to happen, to allow the southern border to be the sight of an invasion of criminal aliens, to decide to not enforce the immigration laws, to decide to turn a blind eye to the sanctuary cities, to decide NOT to go to the rescue at Benghazi, to promoting divisiveness and racial tension to an all time high.

            No! You are wrong. Obama did not make America better. I for one lost my insurance policy, not once but twice. Along with the second policy loss, I lost all my doctors. No. It is not better, and it did not save money. Oblamo lied over and over again about this, Solyndra, saving Detroit, and how about that Obummer mobile, the GMC VOLT. AHHH HAHHAAHHAHAHHAHHAAAA! What a joke.

            Do you realize just how easy you make this for me? I am having a lot of fun at your expense. You really need to stop drinking the Obama Koolaide. It really makes you look stupid and with that, I am sorry for your troubles.

          • See you still want to talk as though our elected officials have any thing to do with policies or actions of this country and it just isn’t true and hasn’t been for 53 years now. You just don’t understand the workings of our real governing body. Research. I’m fine brother , no troubles here but it is most kind of you to worry about me. Peace.

          • Research? No,I am not into the tin-foil-hat stuff. And, no, I don’t think you are fine, but I am not worried. That is an issue for you and a good therapist.

          • Wow we have an uphill battle if you aren’t doing daily hours of research like the rest of us. You have a tin foil hat? What? Do you have books and a computer?

          • Everyone does research of some kind, don’t they? well, except you evidently. What would be the purpose of our existence except to learn and grow? No one my friend believes what the media says so all news stories much be researched and every event or invention every piece of “legitimate” music, visual art is changing daily you have to know about it, yes? History is happening every minute and its all connected to everything that happened before. Why wouldn’t everyone be doing research? I mean it takes 15 hours a week just to keep up with baseball and all the stats and stories, You are alone everyone does.

          • You are full of crap and totally enjoy listening to your own flood of drivel. I have done more research than most and I have the bona fides to back up that statement. You hypocrite. You deflect using your narcissistic image of yourself as a “know it all, old and wise Yoda” professing the need to expand the mind, yet when this began, it began by you trying to squash my God given 1st Amendment rights. GFYS

            You are just so full of B.S. That you are about to explode, and I have run out of tolerance for your B.S.

            Do us both a favor and don’t respond. You are truly sickening. Really, just STFU.

          • Thanks ed, smug and pompous are two of my favorite personal defining traits. As for stupid and presumptuous well, those are things you would know about first hand so I’ll take your word for it. Peace to you 28.

          • I knew I was dealing with a 2nd grader. You are definitely a pro at the “so are you” game. How sad a little child you are. Sorry for your issues.

      • Who do you work for: the RNC or the DNC? It doesn’t really matter since they’re both one and the same. BTW: Since you like Ryan so much, you should at least learn to spell his last name right.

        • Did I misspell it? Wow not a hard one to get right, r-y-a-n. I have always had trouble with conservative names like I can’t spell the Union busters name r-e-g-a-n or r-e-a-g-e-n or r-e-a-g-a-n…I don’ know. Then there is Herr Bushky the murderous drug smuggler and the murderous moronic Herr Bushkier Jr. and his brother Mr. 9/11 Jeb Bushkiest….I dunno. And then Nixon, I usually get that one right, I enjoyed so much watching the CIA dangle him from a string with the Watergate/’63 Coup that I remember that one. The names of anyone to the right of the conservative Bill Clinton are inconsequential to any aspect of my life, I just work to help protect our personal rights against the Republicans or extreme right, spelling the names of the thieves is important to me from a literary standpoint but not from a point of them having any significance in the world beyond their evils. I tend to dwell on the positive aspects of the United States. I will be more careful of the spelling in the future, T-r-e-a-c-h-e-r-o-u-s, I did it!!

      • ?The only dummies are people like you liberal progressive idiots that think being bi=partisan is for the conservatives to bow down to the likes if Piglosi and Dingy Harry. Two of the most Anti-Americans in the House and Senate. I would rather see the government shut down by Obama than fund murderous organizations like Planned Parenthood. Too bad the mothers of Piglosi, Dingy Harry and yours did not abort their unwanted babies.

        • You didn’t say that when little Georgie murdered Sen. Paul Wellstone or JFK Jr. or the 4,000 at the trade center for the sake of going to war created by Jeb and his “Project for a New America”. But we have a president who saves us from a depression, gains marital rights for gays, 5% unemployment, global warming initiatives, stopping coal starts on public lands, saving the automotive industry and on and on. I will admit that he is too hawkish for me but it is the way of the fascist world is it not, sadly? If he would decriminalize non violent drug offenders and increase the NEArts budget, and fund free community college for all he would be a complete success and with no murders. I would love to see a president spend the defense budget on making peace instead of war…I guess I’m dreaming now. We used to work for peace, reckon what happened to that?

      • Troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And very submissive to your masters!! Go away troll!!!!!!!! People like you are the problem in this country!!

        • We are also in the growing majority, perhaps your position is out of step with a modern world. If you will have your congressman vote for time machines for all you can go back to 1855 and live a barbaric life in barbaric times. You and yours are a watercooler joke, sorry but its true. If you would shake the shackles of your masters and their unified talking points of propaganda you could “move on up” like the Jeffersons.

      • There is no reason to work with Democrats on anything. They are enemies of America. Wise up. Read the Constitution. Compare that to what all Democrats and 75 percent of Republicans do.

    • HEY, PEOPLE;;;; Does anyone want to guess, why the vast majority of the
      house was so very happy, when he finally, gave in to them, begging him to
      accept the nomination ??? huh ?? WANNA TAKE A GUESS ?? huh ??

        • theres always money or favors, property, stocks always a pay off or pay out and it those fail theres always the old stand by Blackmail. their all corrupt and thats why they keep each other in office when they are required to remove the corruption.

        • Well add up the Rhino’s and then the Dem’s, and you can figure out how he got in. Of course, there could have been some exchanges to help him.

          • Rick Santorum won the debate, the refusal of acknowledging his win is shame full for the news media and the RNC.
            were running on a 1 party system, Trump should never of signed that pledge.
            Trump and Cruz are playing into the RNC hands, the first dip in the polls they will make the Most dangerous person running the nominee, that is Rubio, don’t be fool by his corruption. He can’t count so that makes him above the law and he can steal tax payers money and spending it like it was his. Rubio’s now show in the Senate is more than just a no show, he;s a Progressive SHILL, he shows when the dems need him, he show up for lobbyist that are paying out big bucks, Rubio socks it to the consumers for his own personal wealth, also vote for some to dictate prices, Is Rubio votes making him money on the Market as well, is so he needs to be behind bars with hitlary. Rubio is a danger to this country, he’s being support by the illegals and those that want cheap labor. Rubios plans to stick it to us will put us at war right here on our soil. Illegals VS America
            I will be a blood bath is Rubio is the nominee.
            If Rubio gets the nominee than a 3 rd party must be formed.

          • Please pay attention to history. Trump was a Democrat/liberal until recently when he suddenly had an epiphany and has now become a constitutional conservative. But has he ever espoused conservative principles? His mantra is “I’m going to make America great again…trust me”. Sorry Donald, you are all about what is good for Trump based on your history. Now that you seem to be way ahead in the polls the RINOs are jumping on your bandwagon as well. Does that not tell you something? Now about Palin. My wife was suspicious about her when McCain (another RINO) picked her for his running mate. She said then that Palin was an empty suit but I was hopeful until her actions since then has shown me she is more dumb than conservative. All the other RINO losers are lining up as well (for instance Bob Dole).

            As far as Cruz and Rubio, they have both, on balance, demonstrated constitutional principles by their actions. Both have made some mistakes but none like Trump’s support for Planned Parenthood, government subsidies for ethanol, Hillary, etc. He is a closet Liberal. I like Rubio’s history. He is the quintessential American success story from his humble beginnings when his father escaped Communist Cuba to his rise to become a Senator. He borrowed for his education and paid it off. How many of the others can say that? I trust him more than any of the others. I also really like Carly and Carson but I don’t think they can overcome the Trump wave.

            I know you are angry but I think Trump’s past socialist support will be used to defeat him regardless of which Democratic socialist gets the Democratic nomination. They did it to Romney using his Romney Care support against him. Think about it.

          • Just one thing to start. If Ted Cruz had told the TX legislature at the time that he was a Canadian citizen, he never would have won the senate seat. Why didn’t he tell them? Why has it taken Ted Cruz until 2014 to become an American citizen? If he is such a “constitutionalist” how could these little details get by him. conservativetreehousecruz.

            Donald Trump said, and rightly so, that if either Cruz or Rubio are the nominee then lawsuits would fly throughout the Democrat party. Are you aware that there are already lawsuits filed across the nation regarding the eligibility of both Cruz and Rubio? Filed in Fed court in November 2015 by H.Brooke Paige vs. State of Vermont Secretary of State James Condos regarding the eligibility of Cruz and Rubio. this is only one.

            Trump has given a great deal of money to both parties in his own words “because I just wanted something to get done”. It never happened. None of them, not even Cruz is a totally conservative candidate. It doesn’t exist. When you think about all the celebraties and conservative talk show hosts that have far more money then the average and none of them alone or together put their money where their mouth is. Oh, they talk a lot but no one does anything to fight the establishment, EXCEPT DONALD TRUMP. He’s had enough of the establishment.

            Sarah Palin is a conservative who endorsed Ted Cruz when he ran for senate, however not now. Why? My guess is Ted Cruz is a sham and a liar. Politicians and lawyers are trained to lie. Cruz has too many ties to Goldman Sachs and the oil and gas industry. He’s bought and paid for and he is the establishment. You will soon discover.

            Sarah Palin is not an empty suit and shame on you for saying so. She’s a good person who fell into the establishment trap and has been branded ever since. Donald Trump is a good person. Have you ever tried to find out all the good deeds Trump has done for people he doesn’t know?

            I’m sorry to see that there are so many people like you who are so in the dark about what the globalist elites are really doing. You and others like you need to educate yourselves.

      • Like every thing else they stab us in the back, they go behind our backs make deals. How much did Ryan get for his Act of Treason or what favors did he get from obama and the Progressives.

      • Most of us thought so, but the ordinary voter can only react to what those who are in power do. Things would be MUCH different if we had had been allowed to choose a different speaker!

      • Easy. He’s delivering on the NAU/NWO agenda. It pays big to sell out yr country. He’s exactly the same as Bonehead. A total scumbag traitor. Just made it possible to bring in 300K Muslims. Globalist motto “order out of chaos”. When you get rid of God satan moves in. They don’t know what kind of hell they are unleashing. But they’ll use it to establish (finish establishing) the police state.

  2. I don’t think Ryan is as bad as is made out although he certainly set our sails back by approving Obama’s 1.1 trillion boondoggle. We Americans are at a crossroads, we have so many problems not the least problem Ryan, but this next elections candidates infighting has helped the progressive-marxist left with ammunition to use against us. I know I’m really being optomistic, if Hillary gets indicted, I don’t care about Ryans signing that spending bill, Biden will probably jump in and anyone of our candidates should be able to beat that bumbling idiot.

    • VOTE TRUMP 2016 For real change and Strong Leadership. He is the only one Using his own money, all the rest will be Using Big Donors Money and those Big Donors will be Demanding Big Favors. Only TRUMP can tell them, Hit the road jack
      and don’t come back.

  3. AS soon as I heard Ryan was the new House Speaker I knew he would back stab America shortly after, that’s what he’s good at. Up here in the North Country, it was common knowledge this guy was a Crooked SOB….. Now to get rid of him.

      • Thanks, for your service, friend. I was in, during that time,( mustered out, on Jan. 16, 1967 ). But; I didn’t get a chance to join you guys. I was assigned to Korea, in ‘winter of ’62. Then; a bit of time, in Arizona, until going to Germany in Dec., ’65 and back to muster out, in Jan., ’67.
        I was radio teletype, for Air Ground support; but, never saw real action.
        I was never dumb enough to envy you guys. Have a long, and prosperous life, my friend.

        • Thank you Bob I was stationed in Munich as a tank driver, took a short and applied for Teletype repair because I realized there was not a whole lot of civilian tank driving jobs, was sent to Vietnam as a infantryman when I got home from Vietnam I went to Teletype repair school at Ft., Gordon then to Ft. Hood then to Berlin where I worked in the Teletype repair shop and Com center until my enlistment was done .

          Landed a job fixing teletype machines for Michigan Bell downtown Detroit so the Army schooling and experience paid off rather well.

          • I went to Gordon, also, for my training. Started in radio-TV repair. Flunked out at midway thru it. Transferred to operations
            where it was a breeze, thanks to what I had already learned, in repair school. All I needed to study, was procedure and morse code. Those were easy; because, I had plenty pf time, since I already knew the equipment. ( in case you’re wondering; The reason I flunked out of repair, was too many late nights, in town.
            lol ). Take care, friend.

  4. Paul Ryan sold out the taxpayers, all Americans as well as his party
    when he bent over backwards to kiss Mr. Obama’s and the Democrat’s asses
    handing them everything they wanted on a sliver platter costing the US
    taxpayers a bundle.

    When with the RNC ever learn?

    • They will NEVER learn!!

      That’s why we need a TRUE Conservative Party.

      I believe that a true conservative, running against the democRAT and RINO repulseican (Hey, that was a typo, but I liked it so much I think I’ll keep using it!) party, that they could win hands down and would not require hundreds of millions of dollars to do so!

      The conservative taxpayers are PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give us a REAL CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • This is why so many want Trump. We are tired of politicians. I am for Cruz because I sincerely believe he is conservative and the RINO’s hate him more than Trump. I understand why people want Trump. They are so enraged at BOTH parties and their behavior. There are so many lies and it is almost impossible to know if they will DO their agenda, not just run under it. Four to eight years is a long time to accept a BIG MISTAKE! I hope our country will remain sovereign after the elections. All three Judicial, Executive and Legislative branches of government are no longer adequate for checks and balances. They seem to be blending together. Lord help us wake up before it’s too late.

  5. SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO disappointed in the “honorable” paul ryan!! At one point I would have supported him for president. But he is in oblamo’s pocket, just like the other 100+ RINO “representing” the taxpayers that ELECTED THEM to take down the liar-in-chief!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. I hope that the People of Wisconsin turn this person out of office in November. He is a political opportunist who actually sold out faster than Boehner and McConnell.

  7. This RINO needs to go. I’m counting on Wisconsin to vote him out. Ryan is a
    back-stabbing, out of touch establishment member who does not, nor will he ever, understand what the people want. Ryan cannot be trusted.

    Next, we’ve got to get rid of maniacal McConnell. He’s another traitor.

  8. I believe that Congress knows that America is screwed no matter what after doubling the debt over the past 8 years. Understand this. If Congress taxed every millionaire/billionaire in America at 100% of their income, it would not even cover the national DEFICIT, let alone pay down anything on the debt. Now that the tax base is making less income than 8 years ago, and there are fewer people per capita working, and more receiving something for nothing from the govt., AMERICA IS SCREWED. But YES, I do agree RYAN NEEDS TO GO!

    • Put the career welfare recipients to work and tax them 100% until they’ve paid off every penny they’ve stolen to pay down the national debt.

  9. He should! Too bad McConnell has 4 more years to continue stabbing America in the back. And I wish people would stop holding it against Cruz for calling McConnell a “liar” He is big time! Senate courtesy doesn’t mean that scoundrels like McConnell should be protected from being called out. My hat’s off to Sen. Cruz! It’s thumbs down on Paul Ryan. Sad.

  10. Republicans like Ryan get run over by progressive unconstitutional immoral Democrats like a stalled car on the tracks by a freight train. The naive believes everything, and inherits folly.

  11. Lying Ryan needs to GO! He’s a typical politician who says one thing and does another. We don’t need anymore of them. That’s why I say “Go Trump!”

  12. He is a opportunist!He probably got some favors for the swift passage of the Bill .The sad part is that he,Mitch .Pelos and Reid had a big hand in the passage also! I hope he gets beat by someone else as he has used up his time in congress!Term Limits Please!!

  13. Ryan talks a good game, but plays “democrat” behind closed doors. Who gets elected to any position and then signs the bill of a predecessor which they (supposedly) vehemently oppose?

    This road has been traveled…Conservative Republicans are done. Bye bye Ryan!

  14. Yes, and I thought he turned Muslim wearing that scruffy beard to hide behind it while he shafted Americans. I can’t believe I liked him at one time. Vote him OUT!

  15. He haS TO GO! I’m SURE THE “establishment” wanted a dont rock the boat man. Mike Lee is the guy they should have as speaker – a true conservative

  16. Ryan was a traitor from the jump. I want to see him experience the same fate as Boehner first. The GOP is setting it up to lose again. They’ll do anything and promote anyone except who the conservative base wants. If they lose this election cycle, the GOP will die. Tea Party will take their place.

  17. Do I think Ryan will face the same fate as Cantor, I hope so! When he granted all of Obama’s wishes he should have known he was in trouble.
    pn

  18. Foking politicans are all for themselves… ever seen one just do 1 term & than make room for another Citizen to take a turn ? Hell No! I’ll add this to General Patton’s quote … RINO’s are lower than Democrats…

  19. Go away, Ryan. Get rid of him asap Wisconsin. We need true patriotic Americans in our Congress and no more of these who say one thing and do the exact opposite. Makes you wonder who really owns them since they don’t represent us!

  20. What I’d love to see, is that when ever a bill/ law comes to the table, the first question should be, does this law/ bill go against the Constitution for the United States of America??? I also think that all candidates for any office should be mandatory to take a course on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I heard two Congressman say they don’t know the Constitution, they have read it, but don’t know it.

  21. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER POLITICIAN FOR PRESIDENT, ESPECIALLY ANOTHER FIRST YEAR SENATOR, OR GOVERNERS, CONTROLLED BY BIG MONEY PACS. TRUMP’S IQ IS IN EXCESS OF 156 AND THAT PUTS HIM ABOVE 99.9 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.

    HE HAS ACCUMULATED BILLIONS, IS A STAND UP IN YOUR FACE, NOT OBLIGATED TO ANYONE, TAKE NO CRAP FROM ANY ONE INCLUDING THE PRESS AND THE ONLY PERSON RUNNING CAPABLE OF RUNNING THE LARGEST BUSINESS ON EARTH, THE US GOVERNMENT.

    IF YOU DO NOT WANT HIM FOR YOUR PRESIDENT, THEN YOU WANT PUPPETS TO BIG PACS THAT WILL SAY ANYTHING TO GET AND STAY IN CHARGE AND DO NOT CARE ABOUT OUR COUNTRY, OR YOU AND I.

    I AM 85 YEARS AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE AS INTELLEGENT AS DONALD TRUMP RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. I VOTE FOR HIM REGARDLESS AND I AM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT.

    • there were other choices but the rinos will never let that happen.. In actuality, the rinos are as much to blame for the mess in USA as the dums

      • You are right about that. Some of them have been there way too long, and they have forgotten the oath they took, or even why they care. They are our employees, and they forget that, too.

  22. If Ryan ain’t lying then he isn’t breathing and that’s the shame with him becoming Speaker of the House. Ryan has no spine for heavy lifting and it is a shame.
    God Bless the USA and Springfield Armory!

    • I would think that you could tell the difference between men and women since I have seen you as both. Yes, I saw your show on the base when you were Fonda….Fonda Boys is your name and you are a righteous drag queen!! Great show BSO! That pale green gown you wear is my fav but you look really good in the gray sequence as well. I really love it when you do that French song, and when you do the Trolley Song as well. You shouldn’t hide you don’t have too anymore we are all ok with it! Sing, sing a song, make it simple to last your whole life long. Don’t worry that its not good enough for anyone else to sing, just sing, sing your song. You go girl!!

      • Actually that was your daddy bent over in the last act, remember, you were the idiot holding his ears being pleasured?
        I know, I know, that your mommy no longer performs with her deformed face but she was great behind the mask in Phantom of the Phags and Drags.
        Now go away little boy and dream of that trolley song while your daddy does dudes in Dallas.
        God Bless the USA and Springfield Armory!

        • My parents are dead they were dead when I saw you dancing in the corner with Lindsey Graham. “put your guns where they belong for those who live by the gun die by the gun”. Peace is always a choice a choice of a higher mind. “Weapons are the tools of violence; all decent men detest them. Arms serve evil. They are the tools of those who oppose wise rule, use them only as a last resort. For peace and is the dearest to the decent man’s heart, and to him even a victory is no cause for rejoicing. He who thinks triumph to be beautiful is one with a will to kill, and one with a will to kill shall never prevail upon the world. It is a good sign when man’s higher nature comes forward. With the slaughter of the multitudes we have grief and sorrow. Every victory is a funeral; when you win a war you celebrate by mourning.”

          • Arms don’t cause evil idiot but people do.
            So you finally killed your parents off or did they run away?
            Now go and hrow up and stop with your propaganda.
            God Bless the USA and Springfield Armory!

  23. He only lied to get to where he is. My congressman, Raul Labradore, endorsed him because he promises to support conservative values. Apparently not. Rino or Democratic mole, he has broken his promises. This to me means he is a Democrat. A democrat will lie to get what ever means it takes to win.

  24. It ain’t about party lines it’s about the money. They would kill their own momma for a dollar and everyone will fall in behind like they are a sports hero morons.

  25. It’s funny how the people didn’t want Ryan but the polititions make they’re own decisions and really don’t care how the people feel….I am done with politicians!
    #TRUMP2016!

  26. Ryan is a two-faced turncoat and should be ousted in the next election; Once a Rino, always a Rino, but even worse, he has become a Obama aid.

  27. It will be so wonderful to see Ryan go the same way as Cantor did. He is nothing more than a RINO in disguise and always has been.

  28. I was VERY skeptical when Ryan was even nominated for the position of Speaker and now my skeptical thoughts have come to pass. That RINO needs to be castrated and dumped in the nearest dumpster.

  29. Don’t know if Ryan will face opposition in the primary but he should as he has proven to be just as bad as Boehner was. Elected officials should understand when they are elected on a platform they should stick to it. I know Ryan was elected speaker by the house but he has still not lived up to what the Republicans were elected to do others from the same party may face the same fate as he in the next election.

  30. Paul Ryan is a weasel that lied to the American People. He needs to be removed as Speaker Of The House and hopefully the voters of Wisconsin will get some sense and not re-elect this RINO!! He needs to go down the road into the cities garbage dump…the lousy piece of trash!

  31. We all got screwed again with Ryan and “The Head Mad Dog” Senator McConnell of the Senate in both Top Positions of the House and Senate. Kick both of their Butts out, with no exceptions, we may have to wait awhile to get this accomplished – BUT MAYBE IT WILL HAPPEN. TSgt., USAF Retired.

  32. PAUL RYAN KNOWINGLY WENT AHEAD WITH FUNDING EVERY OBAMAS HATEFULL, TREASONOUST ACT AGAINST AMERICA, THAT MAKES HIM A TRADER NOT JUST OT HIS CONSERVATIVE BASE BUT TO OUR COUNTRY, WHAT RYAN DID IS AN ACT OF A TRADER, SOMEONE THAT WOULD TO HATE THIS COUNTRY,
    THE CALL FOR RYAN TO BE REMOVED IS WHAT IS NEEDED, THOSE THAT REFUSE TO CALL FOR HIS REMOVAL ARE DOING THEIR JOB OR LIVING UP TO THEIR OATH.
    THEY MUST CALL FOR HIM TO RESIGN OR TAKE STEPS TO REMOVE HIM.
    I THING JASON CHAFFAZ NEEDS TO EXPOSE PAUL RYAN AND WHY HE WAS MADE TO STEP ASIDE AND NOT RUN FOR SPEAKER, AND WHY THE THE FORCE RYAN ONTO US. WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR GOVERNMENT.. THEY PULLED THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES AND MADE RYAY SPEAKER AGAINS THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AN INVESTIGATION INTO RYAN BEHAVIOR IS A MOST. WHAT DID RYAN GET FOR HIS ACT OF TREASON.
    ONE DAY HIS KIDS WILL KNOW HIM TO BE AMERICAS TRADER.

  33. AWESOME! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT ALL AMERICANS CAN DO TO PUT AN END TO MORONS IN OFFICE! VOTE THEM OUT! ARE YOU SICK OF THIS CRAP YET? THEN DO THIS S–T NOW, THE THING THEY ARE ALL TERRIFIED OF IS, RE ELECTION TIME, OUR CHANCE TO PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE ON THE WAY OUT

  34. The article says write to your senator to help get rid of this Rhino…but my senator, which I have never voted for, is one of the Dirty Half Dozen Rhino’s. So that idea won’t work. But I certainly would vote Ryan out.

  35. Hey !!! if you didn’t get to see Colbert roast Palin last night you can find it on YouTube, search ‘the original material girl’. Too funny he roasts her like a moose in a burn barrel!! Damn she should have taken her meds and a shot of her gin before she spoke in tongues like that in public. I hope she keeps showing up, she is a comedians dream, Bill Maher will have a field day with her tonight 10pm on HBO….you won’t want to miss it. Damn I forgot how stupid she really is…..its all coming back to me now. Lord that Colbert piece is to f ing funny, 7 whole minutes of killing her, damn she’s ignorant and nutsy….perfect with Trump beside her…a liberals dream come true! “I can see Russia from my kitchen window” LOL!! All Trump needs now is a pair of big floppy shoes!

  36. Ryan along with many if not most of the RINOS in congress are nothing more that traitors and liars of the highest order. When they had to literally “beg” Ryan to be speaker of the house I had my doubts about the guy. Next step for him? Run for president someday Ryan and the rest are no damn good and should be put out to pasture. Term limits? YOUR DAMN RIGHT! Cut their outrageous salaries and all their benefits? YOUR DAMN RIGHT! All we hear is how hard they work. None of them know what a day’s hard work is. Many of them brag about how they worked in their dad’s beer joint while going to college. I’ve got a flash for them. that is not actually work.

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